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From: ganetauk
Date: Sun Mar 30, 2003 8:04pm
Subject: Re: INDUCE.... Then REMOVE a headache!!
:o) Kb, i will test this for myself when I get time. Interesting post.
--- In a previous message killerb_0187
wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I was just chatting to Tim a short while ago, and I got a few ideas
> when we were confering.
>
> Now this is for EDUCATIONAL purposes only. Seriously guys, I mean
it.
> I was thinking of the variations & possibilities that one could use
> this. The only reason I typed it up is so that I can learn
it... "The
> best way to learn something is to teach it to someone else".
>
> I'm gonna post some of the transcript (with permission from Tim
> ofcourse! :) - Oh yeah, and it may be edited a little! :)
>
>
> ------------------- Transcript BEGIN ----------------------
>
> Tim says:
> i cant wait till the hypno course
> Tim says:
> ive been hypnotising people on and off for a while anyway
> Tim says:
> but it will be good to get a qualification so people will trust me
a
> bit more!!
> Sab says:
> lol
> Sab says:
> well u could just say that you've got one
> Sab says:
> and as soon as their considering it... say "SLEEP NOW, YOU WILL
SLEEP
> NOW!!!", and pressuring their temples while you're saying it
> Tim says:
> lol
> Sab says:
> apparently it works...
> Tim says:
> or even their carotids!!!!!!!!
> Tim says:
> do u know why the carotid artery is called "carotid"
> Tim says:
> its because its named from the Greek doctors (Karee = to sleep in
> Greek) who realised that when they pressed it, people started
> blacking out!!!
> Sab says:
> where is the carotid?
> Tim says:
> the carotid artery is a blood vessel in the neck
> Sab says:
> where abouts?
> Tim says:
> both sides of the upper neck - i dont advise u press it though
> becuase it does cause people to black out i know from experience
> Sab says:
> oh
> Sab says:
> is it like under the earlobe?
> Tim says:
> na more under the jaw
> Sab says:
> coz i know thats a sevear pressure point
> Sab says:
> just pressed it
> Sab says:
> and it's stopping me from breathing, lol
> Tim says:
> ooooh
> Sab says:
> am i doing it right?
> Tim says:
> yes
> Tim says:
> it stops blood to the brain
> Tim says:
> dont press both sides simultaneously - i cannot stress enough u may
> well black out
> Sab says:
> if you say "dont", ofcourse im gonna try it
> Sab says:
> and i have
> Sab says:
> now i got a bit of a headache...
> Sab says:
> ....Thanks!!
> Tim says:
> no problem
> Tim says:
> its a shame u dont live closer i could probably cure ur headache in
> about 3 mins
> Sab says:
> lol, i can do it on 40 seconds!!
> Sab says:
>
> Sab says:
> or 1 min, to be sure!
> Sab says:
> lol, so im gonna go round sqeezing people's necks then curing them,
> LOL!!
> Tim says:
> dont try and cure a headache by pressing the carotid - it will not
i
> assure u
> Tim says:
> much better to press the temporal bones
> Sab says:
> pretty good
> Sab says:
> you used "dont" again!??
> Sab says:
> hey man, you gotta stop that
> Sab says:
> it has adverse effects on people
> Sab says:
> and actually makes them do it
> Tim says:
> lol
> Tim says:
> sorry didnt notice i was being so direct!
> Sab says:
> this reverse shit works with everyone
> Sab says:
> we've been conditioned as children to the word "don't" with "do"
> Tim says:
> true
> Tim says:
> you've been watching DB too much "don't think of a black cat..."
> Sab says:
> you'll find that derren often says "don't try and.... .... .... "
> Tim says:
> LOL
> Sab says:
> could be a suggestion to make you do it
> Sab says:
> "don't try and guess what it is... "
> Sab says:
> lol!!
> Sab says:
> we came out with the same thing at the same time
> Tim says:
> yer
> Tim says:
> hehe
> Tim says:
> you are right btw
> Tim says:
> but i was being serious - watch out when pressing the carotids!
> Sab says:
> yeah
> Sab says:
> im gonna induce
> Sab says:
> then remove
> Sab says:
> then induce again (with a simple anchor)
> Sab says:
> then remove
> Sab says:
> then induce
> Sab says:
> then remove
> Sab says:
> LOL, thanks!!
> Sab says:
> you've given me a great idea!!
> Tim says:
>
> Sab says:
> I have to post this on the group!!
> Tim says:
> ok -just give me some credit!
> Tim says:
> or an acknowledgement!
> Tim says:
>
> Sab says:
> ofcourse...
> Sab says:
> I'm gonna have to save this transcript
> Sab says:
> lol... I may post this!!
> Sab says:
> .... he stops speaking when i mention posting the transcript
> Sab says:
> hehehehehe
> Tim says:
> hi im back
> Tim says:
> sure post the transcript
>
> ------------------- Transcript END ----------------------
>
>
> Right, okay, I didn't edit it!!
>
> Well onto my idea...
>
> I found a way (with help of Tim ofcourse) that you could induce a
> headache in a person by squeezing their "carotids" which really
does
> make your head thump, and then remove it by either squeezing the
> temples or the pressure point combined squeezing the chin (refer
> to "Psychological Subtleties" if you want to know more).
>
> So, basically I'm thinking that this can be incorporated with an
> anchor (preferably kinsthetic, possibly on their shoulder)...
>
> You ask one of your friends to sqeeze their "carotids" for you
> (because you want to try something medical on them). Then you tell
> them to hold it there (only for about 10-20 seconds), NOT ANY
LONGER,
> or they may pass out!! While their doing that when reaching about
17
> seconds, you start your anchor, then you tell them to let go, when
> they do you sqeeze their left shoulder, and then let go as soon as
> it's peaked.
>
> They'll have a headache now... (I've tried it on myself, and my
head
> is seriously thumping now).
>
> Okay... Now onto removing it...
>
> I'm only going to inform you on one method I've found successful on
> removing headaches (which is thoroughly conveyed in "Psychological
> Subtleties - Banachek"), but I'm incorpating it differently here..
>
> Tell them to relax a little (into a waking trance if possible),
then
> you either tell them to remove it with their hands, or you can do
it
> to them. It really depends on what kind of anchor you want. For
> example, if you wanted a kinsthetic anchor then you would let them
do
> it. But if you wanted to make some sort of visual anchor then you
can
> do it for them...
>
> I find that removing a headache is best done by a second person,
> because of expectation etc... it's difficult to get optimum results
> on oneself.
>
> Anyway, back to my method:
>
>
> Basically you put them a light trance (if you can), or just tell
them
> to relax... When you feel that this has been accomplised, then you
> can start to remove the headache by applying pressure on the
relevant
> points. Hold the pressure for about 40 seconds, and then let go!!
> When you reach about 37 seconds, start your anchor (whatever that
may
> be), then as soon as she's finished and opened her eyes you can
stop
> the anchor. But make sure you have it so that the anchor lasts over
> the peak..
>
> Now if you've done both steps successfully, you should have two
> distinctive anchors. ONE to induce a headache, and one to remove it.
>
> Now when the headache is gone, ask her how she feels, and if the
> headache has gone... If she agrees then later on, when she's not
> expecting it, fire the anchor!! and ask her how she feels. If it's
> worked, she may say something like "I've got a bit of a headache
> again". When she says this, fire the other one and it should go
away!
>
> Pretty good huh?
>
> Then you can fire both of them at the same time, and her head will
> explode >;o)
>
> Now out of this seemingly sadistic post, there is some good that
you
> can use it for. For example, now that you've got a simple anchor to
> cure a headache for her, you can fire it everytime she says that
she
> doesn't want to go out because of a headache!! :))))
>
> She'll never be able to use that excuse again... heh...
>
> But seriously though, it beats the hell out of Paracetamol in my
IMO.
> Anyway, hope you've enjoyed reading, and I would ofcourse
appreciate
> any comments or criticims, especially from the NLP guru's of this
> group, i.e. Terry, Marc?? :))
| Replies | Author | Yahoo ID | Date | Size |
| 3919: Re: INDUCE.... Then REMOVE a headache!! | Blue Chip | cs_bluechip | Sun 30/03/2003 | 11 KB |
| 3935: Re: INDUCE.... Then REMOVE a headache!! | killer_b0187 | killerb_0187 | Mon3/31/2003 | 3 KB |
| 3944: Re: INDUCE.... Then REMOVE a headache!! | huntjoanne89 | huntjoanne89 | Mon3/31/2003 | 12 KB |
| 3948: Re: INDUCE.... Then REMOVE a headache!! | killer_b0187 | killerb_0187 | Mon3/31/2003 | 2 KB |
| 3949: Re: INDUCE.... Then REMOVE a headache!! a.k.a. Ouch then urghh | Blue Chip | cs_bluechip | Mon3/31/2003 | 3 KB |
| 3951: Re: INDUCE....Ouch then urghh | derek_heron | derek_heron | Mon3/31/2003 | 2 KB |
| 3960: Re: INDUCE....Ouch then urghh | ganetauk | ganetauk | Mon3/31/2003 | 2 KB |
| 4015: Re: INDUCE....Ouch then urghh | killer_b0187 | killerb_0187 | Wed 02/04/2003 | 3 KB |
| 4019: Re: INDUCE....Ouch then urghh | Blue Chip | cs_bluechip | Wed 02/04/2003 | 5 KB |
