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From: marcthomashogan
Date: Fri Apr 11, 2003 1:34am
Subject: Re: What is needed to trigger anchors - Persuasion-Skills
Hi Greg
Hope you are well
--- In a previous message Greg S
wrote:
> Hi all
>
> There are various views on the conditions to make
> triggering effective.
> (1) Some texts say that simply the touch of the anchor
> is sufficient to trigger a strong anchor. Certainly so
> many of the anecdotes I've read seem to suggest that
> is all that is required.
Many of the original NLP texts were written over 20 years ago and
the importance of state control was not fully understood.
I have recently spent time with
Richard Bandler
John Grinder
&
Eric Robbie
NLP has significantly changed and been refined over the last 20
years...
Also anchoring was often used in a therapeutic context, to have a
similar effect in the real world you need to ensure you strongly
elicit the state in the person that you which to anchor.
In addition touch anchors can be unreliable as you have to touch the
exact spot - and that is not always possible...
> (2) Marc (persuasion-skills.co.uk) the other day said that it can
> be greatly enhanced by ensuring you are in that state first,
> before you try to trigger it in them.
Yes!!
There are two important factors here
a) To elicit the state you yourself must experience it to some extent
I.e. if you want to anchor happiness, be in a happy state yourself!
b) When you fire the anchor if you re-access the state first in you
as you fire it - it will have a much more powerful response
As Bandler says "Your state leads their state"!
I will be covering this in more detail in my Newsletter!
> (3) Tom Vizzini (essential-skills.com) suggested in one of his
> articles that you need to be in the same state as you were in when
> you created the anchor. (This is generalisation of Marc's.)
Yes exactly!!
Tom is completely right!
> (4) On pg 84 of Frogs into Princes it saus, "As long as I repeat
> that touch with the same pressure at then same point on Linda's
> body, and she has no stronger competing states of consciousness
> when I begin, it will always re-access that experience."
Ok
As I said this book was written over 20 years ago!
It works on touch - why not use spatial anchoring - much more covert!
It also says same pressure on the same spot - fine in a therapeutic
context - very difficult in every day conversation. They used to
suggest that you put a little chalk dust on your finger so you could
mark the spot!! Again not very practical
Also if you want to access the state a no of times, in a
conversation - it would be very easy for you to get caught - some
people don't like to be touched repeatedly!
Now for the Most Important Point!!
>and she has no stronger competing states of consciousness
> when I begin, it will always re-access that experience."
So you need to re-access her state, thru youur state!
You can accidentally fire an anchor that someone else has placed -
if original experiance is strong enough (my website has an example)
In fact if they are in a really bad state and you fire the anchor
all you'll probably do is anchor that bad state!!!!
However if you fire the anchor with intent
by re-accessing your state)
It will increase the power of the anchor, and allow that person to
reactivate the state.
In fact if you create a sliding anchor - you can even build this
state even more powerfully!!
> I'd love to hear your thoughts on enhancing anchors.
> In particular, input on the "competing states" phrase
> would be appreciated too.
Hope that helps Greg
Kind Regards
Marc
Marc Hogan
http://www.persuasion-skills.co.uk/
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| 4372: Re: What is needed to trigger anchors - Persuasion-Skills | ganetauk | ganetauk | Fri 11/04/2003 | 6 KB |
| 4374: Re: What is needed to trigger anchors - Persuasion-Skills | Blue Chip | cs_bluechip | Fri 11/04/2003 | 7 KB |
| 4378: Re: What is needed to trigger anchors - Persuasion-Skills | marcthomashogan | marcthomashogan | Fri 11/04/2003 | 7 KB |
| 4389: Re: What is needed to trigger anchors - Persuasion-Skills | ganetauk | ganetauk | Fri 11/04/2003 | 7 KB |
| 4375: Re: What is needed to trigger anchors - Persuasion-Skills | Blue Chip | cs_bluechip | Fri 11/04/2003 | 8 KB |
