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From: ganetauk
Date: Fri Apr 11, 2003 8:28pm
Subject: Re: What is needed to trigger anchors - Persuasion-Skills
Cool, thanks, looking forwards to reading your work Marc.
Regards TerryrreT
--- In a previous message marcthomashogan
<> wrote:
> Hi Terry
>
> I'll send you issue 1 of my newsletter now - anchoring issue will
> follow vey soon....
>
> Marc -)
>
> Marc Hogan
> http://www.persuasion-skills.co.uk/
>
> --- In a previous message ganetauk
wrote:
> > Marc....I was wondering, if possible could you email your
> newsletter
> > please ...my computer is acting odd, so can't send out emails at
> this
> > time...but receiving seems fines (i know what it is, just takes
> > awhile to sort out)
> >
> > metamind @ hotmail . com (without the spaces, darn yahoo lol)
> >
> > Thanks is advance Marc!
> >
> > Regards TerryrreT
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In a previous message marcthomashogan
> > wrote:
> > > Hi Greg
> > >
> > > Hope you are well
> > >
> > > --- In a previous message Greg S
<>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi all
> > > >
> > > > There are various views on the conditions to make
> > > > triggering effective.
> > >
> > > > (1) Some texts say that simply the touch of the anchor
> > > > is sufficient to trigger a strong anchor. Certainly so
> > > > many of the anecdotes I've read seem to suggest that
> > > > is all that is required.
> > >
> > > Many of the original NLP texts were written over 20 years ago
> and
> > > the importance of state control was not fully understood.
> > >
> > > I have recently spent time with
> > >
> > > Richard Bandler
> > >
> > > John Grinder
> > >
> > > &
> > >
> > > Eric Robbie
> > >
> > > NLP has significantly changed and been refined over the last 20
> > > years...
> > > Also anchoring was often used in a therapeutic context, to have
> a
> > > similar effect in the real world you need to ensure you
strongly
> > > elicit the state in the person that you which to anchor.
> > >
> > >
> > > In addition touch anchors can be unreliable as you have to
touch
> > the
> > > exact spot - and that is not always possible...
> > >
> > > > (2) Marc (persuasion-skills.co.uk) the other day said that it
> can
> > > > be greatly enhanced by ensuring you are in that state first,
> > > > before you try to trigger it in them.
> > >
> > > Yes!!
> > >
> > > There are two important factors here
> > >
> > > a) To elicit the state you yourself must experience it to some
> > extent
> > >
> > > I.e. if you want to anchor happiness, be in a happy state
> yourself!
> > >
> > > b) When you fire the anchor if you re-access the state first in
> you
> > > as you fire it - it will have a much more powerful response
> > >
> > > As Bandler says "Your state leads their state"!
> > >
> > > I will be covering this in more detail in my Newsletter!
> > >
> > > > (3) Tom Vizzini (essential-skills.com) suggested in one of
his
> > > > articles that you need to be in the same state as you were in
> > when
> > > > you created the anchor. (This is generalisation of Marc's.)
> > >
> > > Yes exactly!!
> > >
> > > Tom is completely right!
> > >
> > > > (4) On pg 84 of Frogs into Princes it saus, "As long as I
> repeat
> > > > that touch with the same pressure at then same point on
> Linda's
> > > > body, and she has no stronger competing states of
> consciousness
> > > > when I begin, it will always re-access that experience."
> > >
> > >
> > > Ok
> > >
> > > As I said this book was written over 20 years ago!
> > >
> > > It works on touch - why not use spatial anchoring - much more
> > covert!
> > >
> > > It also says same pressure on the same spot - fine in a
> therapeutic
> > > context - very difficult in every day conversation. They used
to
> > > suggest that you put a little chalk dust on your finger so you
> > could
> > > mark the spot!! Again not very practical
> > >
> > > Also if you want to access the state a no of times, in a
> > > conversation - it would be very easy for you to get caught -
> some
> > > people don't like to be touched repeatedly!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Now for the Most Important Point!!
> > >
> > > >and she has no stronger competing states of consciousness
> > > > when I begin, it will always re-access that experience."
> > >
> > > So you need to re-access her state, thru youur state!
> > >
> > >
> > > You can accidentally fire an anchor that someone else has
> placed -
> > > if original experiance is strong enough (my website has an
> example)
> > >
> > > In fact if they are in a really bad state and you fire the
> anchor
> > > all you'll probably do is anchor that bad state!!!!
> > >
> > > However if you fire the anchor with intent
> > > by re-accessing your state)
> > >
> > > It will increase the power of the anchor, and allow that person
> to
> > > reactivate the state.
> > >
> > > In fact if you create a sliding anchor - you can even build
this
> > > state even more powerfully!!
> > >
> > > > I'd love to hear your thoughts on enhancing anchors.
> > > > In particular, input on the "competing states" phrase
> > > > would be appreciated too.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hope that helps Greg
> > >
> > > Kind Regards
> > >
> > > Marc
> > >
> > > Marc Hogan
> > > http://www.persuasion-skills.co.uk/
> > > Free Newsletter available! - Next issue Secrets of Anchoring!
> > > Please send e-mail via Website
