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From: ganetauk
Date: Fri Apr 11, 2003 1:49am
Subject: Re: What is needed to trigger anchors - Persuasion-Skills
Marc....I was wondering, if possible could you email your newsletter
please ...my computer is acting odd, so can't send out emails at this
time...but receiving seems fines (i know what it is, just takes
awhile to sort out)
metamind @ hotmail . com (without the spaces, darn yahoo lol)
Thanks is advance Marc!
Regards TerryrreT
--- In a previous message marcthomashogan
<> wrote:
> Hi Greg
>
> Hope you are well
>
> --- In a previous message Greg S
> wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > There are various views on the conditions to make
> > triggering effective.
>
> > (1) Some texts say that simply the touch of the anchor
> > is sufficient to trigger a strong anchor. Certainly so
> > many of the anecdotes I've read seem to suggest that
> > is all that is required.
>
> Many of the original NLP texts were written over 20 years ago and
> the importance of state control was not fully understood.
>
> I have recently spent time with
>
> Richard Bandler
>
> John Grinder
>
> &
>
> Eric Robbie
>
> NLP has significantly changed and been refined over the last 20
> years...
> Also anchoring was often used in a therapeutic context, to have a
> similar effect in the real world you need to ensure you strongly
> elicit the state in the person that you which to anchor.
>
>
> In addition touch anchors can be unreliable as you have to touch
the
> exact spot - and that is not always possible...
>
> > (2) Marc (persuasion-skills.co.uk) the other day said that it can
> > be greatly enhanced by ensuring you are in that state first,
> > before you try to trigger it in them.
>
> Yes!!
>
> There are two important factors here
>
> a) To elicit the state you yourself must experience it to some
extent
>
> I.e. if you want to anchor happiness, be in a happy state yourself!
>
> b) When you fire the anchor if you re-access the state first in you
> as you fire it - it will have a much more powerful response
>
> As Bandler says "Your state leads their state"!
>
> I will be covering this in more detail in my Newsletter!
>
> > (3) Tom Vizzini (essential-skills.com) suggested in one of his
> > articles that you need to be in the same state as you were in
when
> > you created the anchor. (This is generalisation of Marc's.)
>
> Yes exactly!!
>
> Tom is completely right!
>
> > (4) On pg 84 of Frogs into Princes it saus, "As long as I repeat
> > that touch with the same pressure at then same point on Linda's
> > body, and she has no stronger competing states of consciousness
> > when I begin, it will always re-access that experience."
>
>
> Ok
>
> As I said this book was written over 20 years ago!
>
> It works on touch - why not use spatial anchoring - much more
covert!
>
> It also says same pressure on the same spot - fine in a therapeutic
> context - very difficult in every day conversation. They used to
> suggest that you put a little chalk dust on your finger so you
could
> mark the spot!! Again not very practical
>
> Also if you want to access the state a no of times, in a
> conversation - it would be very easy for you to get caught - some
> people don't like to be touched repeatedly! Now for the Most Important Point!!
>
> >and she has no stronger competing states of consciousness
> > when I begin, it will always re-access that experience."
>
> So you need to re-access her state, thru youur state!
>
>
> You can accidentally fire an anchor that someone else has placed -
> if original experiance is strong enough (my website has an example)
>
> In fact if they are in a really bad state and you fire the anchor
> all you'll probably do is anchor that bad state!!!!
>
> However if you fire the anchor with intent
> by re-accessing your state)
>
> It will increase the power of the anchor, and allow that person to
> reactivate the state.
>
> In fact if you create a sliding anchor - you can even build this
> state even more powerfully!!
>
> > I'd love to hear your thoughts on enhancing anchors.
> > In particular, input on the "competing states" phrase
> > would be appreciated too.
>
>
> Hope that helps Greg
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Marc
>
> Marc Hogan
> http://www.persuasion-skills.co.uk/
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| 4374: Re: What is needed to trigger anchors - Persuasion-Skills | Blue Chip | cs_bluechip | Fri 11/04/2003 | 7 KB |
| 4378: Re: What is needed to trigger anchors - Persuasion-Skills | marcthomashogan | marcthomashogan | Fri 11/04/2003 | 7 KB |
| 4389: Re: What is needed to trigger anchors - Persuasion-Skills | ganetauk | ganetauk | Fri 11/04/2003 | 7 KB |
