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From: cannibal787
Date: Mon May 12, 2003 8:13pm
Subject: Re: You're all very attractive...
Hi Derek,
I still can't agree that David Copperfield claims to walk through
walls, but I suppose he can't really claim it's anything but an
illusion with a great big screen hiding everything he does!
However, I can't help but but disapointed if what Derren does is just
magic. I think this is where our opinions would differ. No offence
intended but I just don't find magic that spectacular on it's own so
if I was certain that's all DB does I don't think I'd bother watching
in future. Until I could be sure though that everything he does is
fake I will watch. On here I think people go too far one way or the
other - Either everything he does is fake, or it's all genuine, the
REAL thing. In my (Completely un-educated opinion) it's somewhere in
between - some magic and some psychology.
Of course I'm probably completey wrong on the matter!
--- In a previous message, Derek
wrote:
> Sorry, just one more wee thought on cannibal787's post which read;
>
>
>
> I don't agree with that. The difference is that Blaine and
> Copperfield don't actually claim that they are levitating or
walking
> through stuff.
>
> If the ad guy thing was completely fake I'd be quite pissed
off 'cos
> that isn't impressive in the slightest. Anyone could do that.
>
> BTW, what evidence is there that it was faked?!?
>
>
> 1. The Ad Guy programme. Think back to when you first saw that
> programme, didn't you go, like, "wow that's shit hot!!" first when
> Derren revealed his prediction from a sealed envelope and again
when
> you saw all the preperation for the subliminal images....YES!!
>
> Right you enjoyed the show. That's what it's all about.
> Entertainment.
>
> 2. "Anyone could do that!!" Probably yes. But no-one else did.
> The brillianly imaginative mind of DB did. In retrospect anyone
can
> say "anyone could do that" Yeah! So why didn't they? You could
also
> apply that statement to 50% of magic tricks if you knew how they
were
> done. How ever simple the machanics of an effect, if it WOW's an
> audience then it doesn't matter.
>
> 3. What evidence is there that it was faked. EXACTLY. What
> evidence is there that any of DB's stuff, on or off stage is
faked.
> Okay we've seen DB use a clipboard, can anyone PROVE it was a trick
> one?
>
> Now I'm not being naive and gonna say it was all on the level but
> unless we KNOW we'll spin ideas round forever.
>
> This forum is picking apart a persons act and some are being
> disappointed by the results. This is not real life. We are all in
> the priviledged position to use the magical minds amoung us to
> unravel the MAGIC that Derren created when we first saw him. The
> general public are not in this positio. They see the magic and are
> entertained by it and DB is a great magician. Unravel the secrets
> onf ANY magician and you are gonna be disappointed.
>
> One last point that came from a different post about people who say
> they know how somethings done but don't tell. YES, I have DB's
> second half sussed. The reasons I will not expose it are as follows
>
> 1. DB asked us not to discuss the second half.
> 2. The effects are not mine to give away.
> 3. This is not a forum for 'magicians only' and therefore the
> disussion of methods of MAGIC (unlike NLP etc) effects is not
> appropriate.
>
> This is my opinion and I hope you will respect it.
| Replies | Author | Yahoo! ID | Date | Size |
| 5375: Re: You're all very attractive... | Derek | derek_heron | Mon 12/05/2003 | 5 KB |
| 5417: Re: You're all very attractive... | Rob Dobson | northerncomfortuk | Wed 14/05/2003 | 5 KB |
| 5423: Cannibal Holocaust | jeczalik_langan_morley | jeczalik_langan_morley | Wed 14/05/2003 | 2 KB |
| 5426: Re: Cannibal Holocaust | notthatsmart2003 | notthatsmart2003 | Wed 14/05/2003 | 2 KB |
| 5433: Re: Cannibal Holocaust | Paulo Romani | paulo_romani | Thu 15/05/2003 | 3 KB |
| 5429: Re: Cannibal Holocaust | richard | rich_cal2003 | Wed 14/05/2003 | 3 KB |
| 5435: Re: Cannibal Holocaust | richard | rich_cal2003 | Thu 15/05/2003 | 4 KB |
