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From: huntjoanne89
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 3:39pm
Subject: Re: INDUCE....Ouch then urghh
--- In a previous message killerb_0187
wrote:
> --- In a previous message huntjoanne89
> wrote:
> > For educational purposes only?
> >
> > That means nothing. If you post the method and say you've tried
it
> > successfuly on yourself, which you did...Isn't it obvious that
some
> > people are going to try it on themseleves whether you write 'for
> > educational purposes only' or not?
> >
> >
> > You might say something like 'well if they're stupid enough to
try
> it
> > then it's their own fault if it goes wrong because I already
warned
> > them not to...'
> >
> > Thats not the point...you posted it with the knowledge that
people
> > will try it.
> >
> > Just a matter of responsibility thats all.
> >
> >
>
> You amaze me.
>
> You cannot tell me that if I give you a gun, I will *know* that
> you're going to go out and shoot somebody? That's absurd.
Different situation. A Gun is obviously very dangerous, squeezing
the neck is not so obvious to a lot of people.
> Have you ever searched the web thoroughly? Now you'll find info on
> just about anything. How to make dynamite, how to kill people and
get
> away with it. Probably even stuff on building a nuclear warhead.
Now
> stop and think...
I know there's this stuff. I've been using the net for over 6 years
now. I am however correct in saying that this stuff is put on the
net very irresponsible people.
> I posted something that would allow you to cure a headache = GOOD.
> AND induce it = BAD. I wrote both the good and bad. What you use it
> for is upto you. How can we know if somethings bad if we haven't
been
> taught it? It's common sense.
>
> You can get a hammer and hit someone with it, or you can build
> yourself a fence. Responsibility is in the hands of oneself. Now if
I
> posted ways in which you can hit someone with a hammer. Does that
> make me irresponsible?
Again, it's a bad analogy because hitting yourself with a hammer is
obviously going to hurt and is dangerous. Stopping the blood supply
to your brain for even a short time to many people might not seem too
dangerous or painful, just a bit of fun, when in fact it is likely a
lot more dangerous than hitting yourself with a hammer.
No. It's the same with self-defence. People
> learn how to fight, yes FIGHT. They don't learn 'self-defend' they
> learn how to physically harm someone. BUT it's taught in the manner
> of "Self-defence", and are taught to only use it in the context of
> defending oneself.
>
I see your point about knowledge only being dangerous if it is used a
certain way, but that doesn't change the fact that when you present
an internet group with this very dangerous method of 'giving yourself
a headache', people are goign to try it. ESPECIALLY if you say you've
tried it on yourself with success.
Your whole post was written in 'try it if you think you know what
you're doing' sort of way. Of course people are going to think they
know what they're doing, even if they don't!
This whole thing reminds me of a similar thing that kids used to try
at school, they'd try to make each other faint using a technique taht
I won't go into. One guy had it done to him, it worked, he
fainted...it also caused him to develop a heart condition.
That's about all I'm going to say on it and please dont take what I
say personally.
Next time you get all excited about an idea like this again, just
think of what you're posting, who will try it and in what ways
they'll use it.
| Replies | Author | Yahoo ID | Date | Size |
| 4033: Re: INDUCE....Ouch then urghh | killer_b0187 | killerb_0187 | Wed 02/04/2003 | 5 KB |
| 4034: Re: INDUCE....Ouch then urghh | derek_heron | derek_heron | Wed 02/04/2003 | 3 KB |
| 4036: Re: INDUCE....Ouch then urghh | killer_b0187 | killerb_0187 | Wed 02/04/2003 | 2 KB |
| 4038: Re: INDUCE....Ouch then urghh | derek_heron | derek_heron | Wed 02/04/2003 | 2 KB |
| 4040: Re: INDUCE....Ouch then urghh | killer_b0187 | killerb_0187 | Wed 02/04/2003 | 2 KB |
| 4065: Hypnotherapy | Blue Chip | cs_bluechip | Wed 02/04/2003 | 4 KB |
| 4071: Re: Hypnotherapy | derek_heron | derek_heron | Wed 02/04/2003 | 5 KB |
| 4096: Re: Hypnotherapy | Blue Chip | cs_bluechip | Thu 03/04/2003 | 6 KB |
| 4110: Re: Hypnotherapy | derek_heron | derek_heron | Fri 04/04/2003 | 2 KB |
