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From: Blue Chip
Date: Thu Apr 3, 2003 9:10pm
Subject: Re: [Derren Brown] Re: Hypnotherapy


>I hope this answers your post 8^)

Yes, thank you.

Did the slim girl manage to quit smkoking in the end?

At 20:25 02/04/03 +0000, you wrote:
>I'll try and answer the points of your post.
>
>The syntax of my sentance may have mis-led you. I would chat with
>the sub-consious whilst the client was under hypnosis which would
>only be induced after a preliminary consultation. Obviously the
>post-hypnotic suggestion would be given whilst the client was in a
>hypnotic state.
>
>To be aware that the client has epilepsy is helpful should they have
>a fit at any point during the consultation (God forbbid.) Epilepsy
>can be triggered by high frequency flashes, this includes flurecent
>lights. If a quack were to use flashing lights or a spinning disk
>to induce a hypnotic state it could prove disasterous.
>
>Their willingness to be cured. An example. A client was
>reccomended to me. She said she wanted to stop smoking. The reason
>given, it was bad for her health etc. However she proved very
>resistant to induction. It transpired that she didn't want to give
>up because smoking was keeping her thin (her words not mine.)
>
>I like to know why poeple come to a hypnotist. "I've tried
>everything else" indicates willingness (usually.) A question and
>answer session before induction usually disipates any fears and mis-
>conceptions and builds rapport.
>
>I hope this answers your post 8^)
>
>--- In a previous message Blue Chip
> wrote:
> >
> > >I wouldn't dream of hypnotising a person without an intiial
> > >consultaition. Now when I say hypnotising I mean, puting someone
> > >into a hypnotic state for the purposes of therapy. During this
>time
> > >I might spend between 5-20mins chatting with the subconsious mind
>of
> > >the client and probably leaving a post hypnotic suggestion.
> >
> > You talk of conversing with the subconcious explicitly outside of
>the term
> > 'hypnosis'.
> > I personally see hypnosis as being the ultimate level of
>conversation with
> > the subconcious.
> > Could you expand a little on the concept of subconcious discussion
>outside
> > hypnosis - I feel that it may help in offering insights into rapid
>induction.
> >
> > Perhaps you could also explain the concept of leving a post
>hypnotic
> > suggestion without hypnotising a person?
> >
> > >Okay, I wouldn't do any of this until I have established that
>persons medical
> > >background. I want to know if they are on any medication that
>may
> > >indicate heart problems (including Blood pressure), schizophrenia
>or
> > >epilepsy.
> >
> > Given the immense relaxation that generally pairs itself with
>hypnosis -
> > heart conditions is quite obvious. And I think the implications
>of
> > schizophrenia speak for itself (or should that be TO itself? ;))
> >
> > But I find your comments on epilepsy very interesting. I
>understand a
> > little about epilepsy, but would you care to offer sugestions as
>to the
> > risks involved in this, and how they may manifest themselves?
> >
> > >This is important if I am going to induce a hypnotic
> > >state. A general chat about their problem is also necessary to
> > >determine their willingness to be cured etc.
> >
> > I can see how the perverted mind would pay for a hypnotherapy
>session with
> > the programme of merely debunking it. How do you handle such
>people? Do
> > you 'prove them wrong'? or maybe just say "sorry, goodbye"? Does
>this
> > contrary/stubborn/??? attitude in a patient mean that a suggestion
>which is
> > accepted is all the more powerful?
> >
> > Hopefully there are one or two good questions above. I think the
>concept
> > of 'subconcious communication' will be of special interest to this
>group -
> > given that it is what our hallowed monarch exudes :)
> >
> > BC
>
>
>
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