Derren Brown: Archive
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From: happany
Date: Fri Dec 27, 2002 7:57am
Subject: Stupid Statistics
--- In a previous message Blue Chip wrote:
>
> > > Hi, i have been interested in the work of Derren from the first
> > >time
> > > i saw him on tv. I just stumbled upon this group the other day
and
> > >i
> > > thought i would take the time to post a message.
> > >
> > > I find his work absolutly amazing and am very interested in
> > >learning
> > > some of the basic techniques. Is the "pure effect" book
available
> > >to
> > > purchase from anywhere ot is it just available on his website.
> >The book has nothing to do with the mindcontrol shows.
>
> This book contains an incredible amount of information on
presentation and
> surely without good presentation DB (or any
magician/mentalist/performer)
> is nothing!?
>
> As an MC example, let's take the obvious 'pick pocketing' routine.
DB says
> something like "i grip one wrist firmly whilst removing the watch
from the
> other" - this is MISDIRECTION. You don't try to take the watch
without
> being felt, you just give the body a more significant stimuli to
detract
> from the gag.
>
> Pure Effect and The Devils Picturebook, give dozens of different
approaches
> and tips to misdirection for all occasions - and they ALL work on
MOST
> people, with humerous regularity.
>
> Also, if you pay the going rate for a first edition of Pure Effect,
you
> will find two of the MC gags explained in detail! (allegedly - I do
not own
> a 1st Ed. copy myself)
>
> > You will not
> >find secrets there, only classic close-up magic.
> >
> > > I have read through many of the threads in this group and am
> > > beginning to get some sort of an idea of how some of the
> > >techniques
> > > work but would prefer to buy the book.
> >Be careful with the posts here, it's 90% nonsense and 10%
> >interesting stuff!
>
> That's an incredible statisic... 90% you say??
> May I ask what YOU mean when you say "nonsense"?
> To me "nonsense" is something that does not make sense, but of
course, just
> because is does not make sense to me, doesn't make it wrong. In
fact, if
> it doesn't make sense to me, then I was probably just 'not smart
enough' to
> understand it! I would say that only about 13.2% of what is posted
here
> makes no sense to me - and 91.3% of _that_ is fan mail.
>
> Could you give a GOOD example of some of this nonsense?
> I do not mean "my favourite colour is blue" - this is typical fan
club mail
> and perfectly acceptable in a fan club (which this is).
> What I do mean is <deep breath>
> 'a-plausible-explanation-of-a-DB-presentation-that-is-fundamentally-
flawed-in-a-unapparent-way-which-could-drastically-misdirect-the-
inexperienced-performer-from-the-actual-approach'
> For, without even a single example, you claim falls in to the
categories:
> # "42.7 percent of all statistics are made up on the spot." [The
Hon. W.
> Richard Walton, Sr.]
> and
> # "There are lies, damn lies, and statistics" [Mark Twain]
Exactly.
| Replies | Author | Yahoo! ID | Date | Size |
| 2075: Re: Stupid Statistics | hipparque2002 | hipparque2002 | Fri 27/12/2002 | 3 KB |
| 2076: Re: Stupid Statistics | Will Stephens | willstephens1 | Fri 27/12/2002 | 2 KB |
| 2079: Re: Stupid Statistics | Blue Chip | cs_bluechip | Fri 27/12/2002 | 3 KB |
| 2090: Re: Stupid Statistics | killerb_0187 | killerb_0187 | Sat 28/12/2002 | 4 KB |
