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From: nxnzerx
Date: Sun May 11, 2003 11:02am
Subject: [Derren Brown] Re: You're all very attractive...
Good example and good points, nice post R
If you have read Pure Effect you will be aware of Derrens opinion on
stooges, setups and little "reminders" given to the participants.
All he is concerned about is the final appearance of the effect, the
end justifies the means...
--- In a previous message, richardwrote:
> One way ( but not the way the advertising agency trick was
performed ) to do "telepathic" drawings - get two people , one
to 'transmit' , the other to 'receive' but don't specifically say
who has to do what task ; plus two large note/drawing pads - prepare
these before-hand by making small perforations across the top each
of the two pages ( about two inches down )that will be drawn upon in
both pads ( this will allow the pages to be torn out with relative
ease ) . Above the perforations on each pad ; write ,for
example ,'Transmit drawing of a dog " ( the instructions written
also beforehand without knowledge of the participants).
> Neither of the two persons knows the other has the same
instructions written on their respective note-pads ; then ask them
to transmit the image in simple form ( without mentioning what the
image is...or again any designation of who is meant to be
transmitting/receiving ). Ask them both to concentrate very hard on
the image to be transmitted then draw it. When both have finished ,
tear out the drawings below the perforations from each note
pad...the written instructions are left in the pads - the drawings
shown to the participants. ....At face value it may seem a
disappointing trick to know how to do , but get past the 'props' ,
and what makes the trick work is psychological deception.
> Okay , some in this group may be very disappointed if , as has
been suggested , some of DB
> TV tricks are 'set-ups' - you can take DB out of magicianship ,
but you can't take the magicianship out of DB! He is not 'psychic' &
has never claimed to be . Its the 'effect' that matters - that we
may have in some cases got close to how DB does stuff shouldn't
cause disappointment if as we should all have known at the outset ,
these had nothing to do with 'paranormal' or 'supernatural'
abilities.
> TTFN
> Rich
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From : "Craig R. Lemon"
> To : derrenbrown@y...
> Date : 10 May 2003 23:42:16
> Subject : Re: [Derren Brown] Re: You're all very attractive...
> One thing that is really peeing me off about this group is the
number of
> >people who say:
> >
> >"oh i know how x, y or z was done, but i'm not telling you
because i'm not
> >supposed to/i'm a magician/i'm a twerp"
> >
> >Frankly if you know how something was done but aren't prepared to
pony up
> >the good and explain then you should shut up about it - and if
you think
> >someone is wrong with a theory, then explain WHY not just dismiss
it.
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From:
> >To:
> >Sent: 10 May 2003 22:09
> >Subject: [Derren Brown] Re: You're all very attractive...
> >
> >
> >> I don't agree with that. The difference is that Blaine and
> >> Copperfield don't actually claim that they are levitating or
walking
> >> through stuff.
> >>
> >> If the ad guy thing was completely fake I'd be quite pissed
off 'cos
> >> that isn't impressive in the slightest. Anyone could do that.
> >>
> >> BTW, what evidence is there that it was faked?!?
> >>
> >
> >
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