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From: liv_porter
Date: Mon Apr 28, 2003 11:25am
Subject: Re: Another Derren Brown?! (Jez Rose)
Hi all
I have to say I agree with Adele. Don't get me wrong I am a big
Derren fan but I never thought he was the only one in this line of
work - it is just a credit to Derren's talent that he has become well
known for it. Im sure there are a lot of you (me included) that would
love to have the talent Derren does and Im sure if you could get paid
for doing what you love then you would - and theres nothing wrong
with that. Derren has a large following and nobody will take that
away from him. I think Jez should be allowed to show what he can do -
and if hes good at it then well done to him and good luck. Derren
will always be popular as he is very talented and now the common face
for what he does.
Liv :-)
--- In a previous message, Adele
wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Personally I think we are being unfair to Jez. And no before you
> ask I don't know him personally but I think that is the point. None
> of us do. And I don't think we should judge him before at least one
> of us has seen his act!
> I understand we are all Derren fans (why else would we be here!)
> and so being, are very protective of him and his act but I think we
> have to give Mr Rose a chance. Just because they work under the
same
> umbrella of "Psychological Illusionist" doesn't necessarily mean
that
> their acts are identical.
> Ok we do know that they both do the same sticking hands to
> something but I imagine the format is completely different. Both
> David Blaine and Paul Daniels do the "Pick a card, any card" type
> trick but David Blaine's slightly spaced out, laid back producing
it
> from a parked car is so far removed from Mr Daniels "say yes Paul"
> overexcited chatter that it isn't recognisable as the same trick.
> I would think that Derren and Jez have very different
> personalities and so perform their acts in very different ways. As
I
> say I have only ever seen the Website so I have no proof of this. I
> just feel bad for the guy that everyone is very defensive and
> critical of him without really knowing the truth.
> After all Derren HAS met him and he is cool about it! What more
> proof do we need that he is no threat!
> If you ARE reading this Jez I do think you should stand your
> ground and fight your corner! I know this is a Derren Brown site
but
> we discuss other illusionists all the time. In fact i believe a few
> of the members are actually in this line of work, professionally or
> recreationally. We do value your imput and a purely personal
opinion
> is that I would welcome you to this site. We love to speculate on
how
> the tricks are done and while I certainly wouldn't want any secrets
> revealed you would be in a very unique and fun position of being
able
> to play "you're getting warmer.... no no colder!" teasing with us!
So
> please come back and talk to us. And guys welcome him. Don't
attack.
> Play nice!!
>
>
>
> --- In a previous message, jezrose1
wrote:
> > Sang,
> >
> > I don't feel it would be right for me to share information about
me
> > on what is, essentially, a place for fans of Derren. If you're
> > interested in my personal style [which is, incidentally, although
> > similar as it is so unique, different to Derrens] then look at
the
> > new website which will go online later in May....hopefully.
> >
> > I was just a little annoyed to read that I was "copying Derren",
> and
> > branded unfairly as someone out to mimic and take over Derren's
> > persona. Think of it, simply, like other professional performers
> > performing 'street magic' - they aren't copying or "out to get"
> > David Blaine, they are giving the public what they want. It is
> > slightly different in this context because of the specialist
nature
> > of this particular style and there are therefore less of us doing
> it.
> >
> > If I don't reply, I'm not being rude, only I don't make a point
of
> > watching these forums. I'll let you get on now with enjoying
> > Derren's performance. I hope I've cleared a few things up.
> >
> > Another Derren Brown? No. I'm Jez Rose.
> >
> >