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From: ganetauk
Date: Sun Mar 30, 2003 7:42pm
Subject: [Derren Brown] Re: Question to Terry...
"last question for terry, where did you train! You see ive had
dealings with quite a few of the main schools. Do you compose?
"
..i trained, nowhere :o) ...i taught myself using my
cognitive/behavioural modelling method. And yes I do composer...i
work mostly as a pianist and composer, although I am starting to do
more teaching - music and modelling/nlp.
Its nice to see so many people with such good taste - classical
music , derren brown, nlp etc :o)
Regards TerryrreT
--- In a previous message na na wrote:
>
> Its really amazing that so many of you in this group seem to love
classical music. When I was at school everyone thought i was a freak
since I only bought classical cds.(I now love all types of music, but
classical still has a special place in my heart!)
> I thought terry's info was wonderful. I started playing the piano
when i was 4 and continued till i was 16. I wish i had had a teacher
like terry, because i was pushed really badly to perform at all the
school concerts and subsequently i fucked up big time when i was 13
doing a peice of mozart. After that i hated playing and begged my
parents to end the torture! I did my grade 5 theory in floods of
tears and was practically dragged into my grade 7,before which i ate
4 mars bars in a row because i was so unhappy and the chocolate made
me feel a bit better! I refused to take grade 8 and then stopped
playing until last year. I love it now since there isnt any pressure
to pass an exam or anything and i am really pleased that my parents
didnt let me give up since im now able to learn nearly all the peices
i love!
> so for those of you wanting to learn, enjoy it, the rewards are
great!
> oh and terry, i did get the barenreiter urtext version of the
goldberg variations and strangly enough i bought the moonlight sonata
at the same time! I bought clair de lune last week, but the timings
f**king hard, so ive abandoned that one. Re-learnt chopins raindrop
prelude(which is lovely.) but my peice of the moment is mozarts rondo
in a minor!
> last question for terry, where did you train! You see ive had
dealings with quite a few of the main schools. Do you compose?
> poppy
>
aria_da_cap0 wrote: i
must say, learning with a teacher is the best thing i've ever done.
> I've played music since age 6 (i'm 25 now) and started playing
> keyboards aged 9 and clarinet age 12. I only started learning piano
> properly with a teacher in November and the advantages over
learning
> solo are huge. For example, if you've never played music before it
> can be difficult to know if you are doing things correctly or not.
> For me the advantages are that i have someone to encourage me,
> explain meanings behind pieces of music, tell me if i am playing
> notes and pieces incorrectly(or correctly!!) and generally keep me
on
> my toes. My teacher told me on Monday that i have progrssed
> incredibly quickly and i believe that it due to partly previous
> knowledge but also having a great teacher. But everyone is
different
> and you should do what suits you.
> there you go!
> aria x
>
> --- In a previous message ganetauk
wrote:
> > Hello Kb,
> >
> > "I want to learn how to play the piano, what's the best way to
> learn
> > how to do that? is it through private lessons, or learning on my
> own,
> > or what? I've only got a Casio keyboard (not a full piano), but
the
> > keyboard is pretty good."
> >
> > Ok, I started by teaching myself using the following book "The
> > Omnibus Complete Piano Player (The Complete...) Kenneth Baker ".
> >
> >
>
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0711961646/ref=sr_aps_books_1
> > After studying that specific book, I started to use my modelling
> > method to model top classical players.(glenn gould's "piano
> dancing",
> > chopin's mental patterns, liszt's postures and use of metaphors
> etc.)
> >
> > Since you don't know my modelling method, here is what you can
try
> > kb; Once studying the said book, page by page (if you skip ahead
> > you'll miss something, it progresses in such a way that little
> > elements of knowledge are added - so take your time, trust me its
> > quicker that way), you'll have enough basic knowledge to know if
> you
> > want to learn more. You might be happy at this point and not need
> > anymore study. You'll be able, if you go step-by-step, to play
the
> > moonlight sonata etc. ie your goal.
> >
> > If you do wish to learn more, you might try and seek out a
teacher -
>
> > basically look for a teacher with the most letters after their
> name.
> > Don't mess around with a small time teacher, go for a top
> > teacher...normally charge £20 per hour (hence i suggest you start
> > with the book, cheaper and works!)
> >
> > I do teach but cannot take anymore pupils at the moment or i'd
> teach
> > ya. The way I teach is via modelling, trance and nlp, so you
learn
> > all the major and minor scales in about 20minutes, without even
> > knowing you were learning :o)(the reason I've have said this is
to
> > let you know its possible and quite easy to do - (clue) look for
> > patterns and then generalise across areas).
> >
> > I won't go into details about my specific music teaching
> techniques,
> > but here's a tip - always search for patterns and try and code
> those
> > patterns with numbers (thats a BIG clue :o) - numbers are easy to
> > generalise in music. And keep the patterns as simple as possible,
> > then you'll be able to cope when it gets complex/advanced.
> >
> > "I've only got a Casio keyboard (not a full piano), but the
> > keyboard is pretty good."
> >
> > Thats fine, I started with a small keyboard. And since you have
> this
> > keyboard, use its resources! As you play, keep time by using the
> > drums etc. If a piece suggests the sound of a violin, then use a
> > violin sound. When you sit at a real piano, you can think about
> > hearing those sounds and your music will come to life.
> >
> > "I want to learn it mainly for classical music... like "Moonlight
> > Sonata" - That's beautiful, one of my favourites!!"
> >
> > The book I suggested teaches various tunes/styles. It will teach
> you
> > to be able to play various styles, including classical. To play
any
> > music you need a technique, art flows FROM technique. Technique
is
> > the execution of specfic patterns/models. Anyone who says
technique
> > is not important, tends to have very little technique. :o) I go
by
> > what works.
> >
> > Other tips - visualise things in your mind as you play. When you
> > learn about "chords"...like C major, play it with you eyes closed
> and
> > see a specifc colour for C major and so on. Strategy - You are
> > anchoring external sounds to internal images.
> >
> > Remember to breath! - some people when playing, and learning in
> > general, forget to breath. Your brain kinda needs the air. :oP
> >
> > Get confident at your level of knowledge. Dont worry if it seems
> > simple to others etc. You are at YOUR level. You are progressing.
> > Once confident with a piece of knowledge, use it and then go onto
> the
> > next step. Step-by-step.
> >
> > ok, I'll stop there. And for those of you who are not interested
in
> > music/piano but read the above....you might have noticed some
> methods
> > you can generalise to YOUR studies, can you not?
> >
> > Regards TerryrreT
> >
> > ps. Also, check online for FREE piano lessons. When I started
there
> > was no www.
> >
> > --- In a previous message killerb_0187
<>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi Terry,
> > >
> > > You seem to be in a very helpful mood from your recent posts,
so
> > I'm
> > > gonna anchor that state to me (a visual one, i believe)!! :D
> > >
> > > Right, before I begin, this is NOT a post related to Derren, so
> > > please ignore it if that's what you're looking for.
> > >
> > > The only reason why I'm posting this, and not e-mailing Terry
> > > personally is because it might be a useful question to some of
> > you...
> > >
> > > Right, Terry....
> > >
> > > I want to learn how to play the piano, what's the best way to
> learn
> > > how to do that? is it through private lessons, or learning on
my
> > own,
> > > or what? I've only got a Casio keyboard (not a full piano), but
> the
> > > keyboard is pretty good.
> > >
> > > I want to learn it mainly for classical music...
like "Moonlight
> > > Sonata" - That's beautiful, one of my favourites!!
> > >
> > > And if you could make me a model of yourself that'd be great!
>;)
>
>
>
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