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From: na na
Date: Sun Mar 30, 2003 11:48am
Subject: Re: [Derren Brown] Re: Question to Terry...
Its really amazing that so many of you in this group seem to love classical
music. When I was at school everyone thought i was a freak since I only bought
classical cds.(I now love all types of music, but classical still has a special
place in my heart!)
I thought terry's info was wonderful. I started playing the piano when i was 4
and continued till i was 16. I wish i had had a teacher like terry, because i
was pushed really badly to perform at all the school concerts and subsequently
i fucked up big time when i was 13 doing a peice of mozart. After that i hated
playing and begged my parents to end the torture! I did my grade 5 theory in
floods of tears and was practically dragged into my grade 7,before which i ate
4 mars bars in a row because i was so unhappy and the chocolate made me feel a
bit better! I refused to take grade 8 and then stopped playing until last year.
I love it now since there isnt any pressure to pass an exam or anything and i
am really pleased that my parents didnt let me give up since im now able to
learn nearly all the peices i love!
so for those of you wanting to learn, enjoy it, the rewards are great!
oh and terry, i did get the barenreiter urtext version of the goldberg
variations and strangly enough i bought the moonlight sonata at the same time!
I bought clair de lune last week, but the timings f**king hard, so ive
abandoned that one. Re-learnt chopins raindrop prelude(which is lovely.) but my
peice of the moment is mozarts rondo in a minor!
last question for terry, where did you train! You see ive had dealings with
quite a few of the main schools. Do you compose?
poppy
"aria_da_cap0 wrote: i
must say, learning with a teacher is the best thing i've ever done.
I've played music since age 6 (i'm 25 now) and started playing
keyboards aged 9 and clarinet age 12. I only started learning piano
properly with a teacher in November and the advantages over learning
solo are huge. For example, if you've never played music before it
can be difficult to know if you are doing things correctly or not.
For me the advantages are that i have someone to encourage me,
explain meanings behind pieces of music, tell me if i am playing
notes and pieces incorrectly(or correctly!!) and generally keep me on
my toes. My teacher told me on Monday that i have progrssed
incredibly quickly and i believe that it due to partly previous
knowledge but also having a great teacher. But everyone is different
and you should do what suits you.
there you go!
aria x
--- In a previous message ganetauk wrote:
> Hello Kb,
>
> "I want to learn how to play the piano, what's the best way to
learn
> how to do that? is it through private lessons, or learning on my
own,
> or what? I've only got a Casio keyboard (not a full piano), but the
> keyboard is pretty good."
>
> Ok, I started by teaching myself using the following book "The
> Omnibus Complete Piano Player (The Complete...) Kenneth Baker ".
>
>
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0711961646/ref=sr_aps_books_1
> _1/026-0320322-8170841
>
> After studying that specific book, I started to use my modelling
> method to model top classical players.(glenn gould's "piano
dancing",
> chopin's mental patterns, liszt's postures and use of metaphors
etc.)
>
> Since you don't know my modelling method, here is what you can try
> kb; Once studying the said book, page by page (if you skip ahead
> you'll miss something, it progresses in such a way that little
> elements of knowledge are added - so take your time, trust me its
> quicker that way), you'll have enough basic knowledge to know if
you
> want to learn more. You might be happy at this point and not need
> anymore study. You'll be able, if you go step-by-step, to play the
> moonlight sonata etc. ie your goal.
>
> If you do wish to learn more, you might try and seek out a teacher -
> basically look for a teacher with the most letters after their
name.
> Don't mess around with a small time teacher, go for a top
> teacher...normally charge £20 per hour (hence i suggest you start
> with the book, cheaper and works!)
>
> I do teach but cannot take anymore pupils at the moment or i'd
teach
> ya. The way I teach is via modelling, trance and nlp, so you learn
> all the major and minor scales in about 20minutes, without even
> knowing you were learning :o)(the reason I've have said this is to
> let you know its possible and quite easy to do - (clue) look for
> patterns and then generalise across areas).
>
> I won't go into details about my specific music teaching
techniques,
> but here's a tip - always search for patterns and try and code
those
> patterns with numbers (thats a BIG clue :o) - numbers are easy to
> generalise in music. And keep the patterns as simple as possible,
> then you'll be able to cope when it gets complex/advanced.
>
> "I've only got a Casio keyboard (not a full piano), but the
> keyboard is pretty good."
>
> Thats fine, I started with a small keyboard. And since you have
this
> keyboard, use its resources! As you play, keep time by using the
> drums etc. If a piece suggests the sound of a violin, then use a
> violin sound. When you sit at a real piano, you can think about
> hearing those sounds and your music will come to life.
>
> "I want to learn it mainly for classical music... like "Moonlight
> Sonata" - That's beautiful, one of my favourites!!"
>
> The book I suggested teaches various tunes/styles. It will teach
you
> to be able to play various styles, including classical. To play any
> music you need a technique, art flows FROM technique. Technique is
> the execution of specfic patterns/models. Anyone who says technique
> is not important, tends to have very little technique. :o) I go by
> what works.
>
> Other tips - visualise things in your mind as you play. When you
> learn about "chords"...like C major, play it with you eyes closed
and
> see a specifc colour for C major and so on. Strategy - You are
> anchoring external sounds to internal images.
>
> Remember to breath! - some people when playing, and learning in
> general, forget to breath. Your brain kinda needs the air. :oP
>
> Get confident at your level of knowledge. Dont worry if it seems
> simple to others etc. You are at YOUR level. You are progressing.
> Once confident with a piece of knowledge, use it and then go onto
the
> next step. Step-by-step.
>
> ok, I'll stop there. And for those of you who are not interested in
> music/piano but read the above....you might have noticed some
methods
> you can generalise to YOUR studies, can you not?
>
> Regards TerryrreT
>
> ps. Also, check online for FREE piano lessons. When I started there
> was no www.
>
> --- In a previous message killerb_0187
> wrote:
> > Hi Terry,
> >
> > You seem to be in a very helpful mood from your recent posts, so
> I'm
> > gonna anchor that state to me (a visual one, i believe)!! :D
> >
> > Right, before I begin, this is NOT a post related to Derren, so
> > please ignore it if that's what you're looking for.
> >
> > The only reason why I'm posting this, and not e-mailing Terry
> > personally is because it might be a useful question to some of
> you...
> >
> > Right, Terry....
> >
> > I want to learn how to play the piano, what's the best way to
learn
> > how to do that? is it through private lessons, or learning on my
> own,
> > or what? I've only got a Casio keyboard (not a full piano), but
the
> > keyboard is pretty good.
> >
> > I want to learn it mainly for classical music... like "Moonlight
> > Sonata" - That's beautiful, one of my favourites!!
> >
> > And if you could make me a model of yourself that'd be great! >;)
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