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From: Blue Chip
Date: Thu Mar 6, 2003 6:41pm
Subject: Re: [Derren Brown] Re: Speed Seduction et al
With serious regard to "seduction" [god! I HatE that word, the word
"mysoginist" should be reserved for jokes and Ross Jeffries]
There is nothing worse than a bunch of cheesy predefined chat up lines from
a bloke who insists on holding the conversation with your breasts while
looking shifty and mumbling every third word which is regularly in regard
to how much he loves/hates himself interspersed with how much he likes your
<whatever> and what forms of interaction he would like to have with it/them.
Sounds familiar?
Try some of these or have a good laugh with them.. Your choice..
# Look her in the eye (preferably not the glass one that has fallen out and
landed in her ample cleavage)
# Hold yourself upright (space bar jammed again)
# Speak as if to an old friend (maybe skipping "how are you, you old b_*£@3")
# Resist the urge to whitter on about yourself - speak well of your many
friends [well make some up then!!]
# Do not take credit for any of your own ideas (that one came from a book
lent to me by an old school friend)
# By all means pass 'shallow compliments' about her restful or trance-like
eyes, and peachy complexion [oops, forgot, humans don't have furry
skin]. But don't declare you undying love for her inside the first 7
minutes (or even DAYS, come to that.)
So here's your clue Luise... If anyone seems to exhibit ALL of these traits
- tread carefully.
Guys, No.3 is the killer if you can master it ;)
You will have to post about your favourite idea from Corinda's book, I'm
fascinated to read about your experiences with these new ideas. :-)
>Blue Chip / Bailey,
>
>I think all the ladies here would greatly enjoy being a spy on the
>wall if you two were trying to chat up women doing that stuff.
>
>This is all smoke and waffle anyway...you two would be a lot smoother
>than that, you pair of foxes :-)
>
>You're probably right about blokes never noticing the finer details:
>the extension of that logic is that women would make better
>mentalists, non?
>
>Anyway, I've just gone and bought Corinda 13 Steps, la la!
>Let the learning commence ;-)
>
>
>--- In a previous message Blue Chip wrote:
> > I quite enjoy watching breathing rates, when they say "excuse me,
>the
> > conversation is happening up here" I just say "It's alright. I'm
>not
> > staring at your 7175, just monitoring your breathing rate" ;) LOL
> >
> > And you do have one more than valid point. Blokes ARE all blind,
>blushing
> > is far too subtle a hint when all he is aware of is the torrent of
>raging
> > whoremoans pumping up and down inside, generally making him say
>really
> > stupid things like "you have lovely skin, what kind of cream do you
>put on
> > your face... ... only kidding... ... your skin's quite wrinkly
>really"
> >
> > At 16:49 06/03/03 +0000, you wrote:
> > >I've a load of mp3s with the innuendo ("patterns" yeah right) I
>don't think
> > >I could use them.
> > >Blatant filth. That's what they want and by golly that's what I do
>well.
> > >Just before I crash and burn.
> > >:)
> > >Do a search for mp3s about anchoring better than the books. ergh
>some of
> > >them are so dull.
> > >
> > >Well, woman notice body language/ blushes/ totally obvious signs
>so much
> > >better than men, Who are in fact blind to them you'd be better off
>going
> > >total red just to see if he sees anything at all.
> > >
> > >- I've been looking for ages and I still can't see changes.
> > >Breathing rates
> > >I can but not much else.
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "luise_f"
> > > >Reply-To:
> > > >To:
> > > >Subject: [Derren Brown] Re: Speed Seduction et al
> > > >Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 15:45:34 -0000
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >mrb bailey
> > > >
> > > >I probably should do that if it happens again - start talking to
>them
> > > >in speed seduction lingo. I'm obviously far *too* kind to make
>them
> > > >crumple, I'd be more likely to simply excuse myself. (note to
>self:
> > > >give inner bitch some exercise :-)
> > > >
> > > >The time it was most blatant was when this guy was doing
>the 'sex'
> > > >one - you know where you bombard the bird with tons of sexual
> > > >innuendo but keep saying 'only kidding'? Then apparently she'll
>want
> > > >to go home with you. He was really incredibly foul.
> > > >
> > > >It's nice to hear you think I should keep the blush :-)
>Ultimately I
> > > >don't think there's a great deal I can really do to conceal it,
>maybe
> > > >just control it a little. It's not that its disfiguring, (not
>that
> > > >bad!) but it generally only happens if I *like* someone. You know
> > > >what I mean. And that's a big handicap in this domain of people
> > > >reading!
> > > >
> > > >The anchoring is something I should practise more. Time to dig
>the
> > > >aged NLP tomes out again.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--- In a previous message mrb_bailey wrote:
> > > > > The blush thing sounds like it could use a bit of altered
>state
> > > >help.
> > > > >
> > > > > When don't you blush? What are you doing, seeing, hearing
>all the
> > > > > other visualisation stuff.
> > > > >
> > > > > When do you blush?
> > > > >
> > > > > Anchor the not blushing (by what ever means works for you) to
>just
> > > > > before the blush state.
> > > > >
> > > > > So the next time you feel you are going to blush you have to
>go
> > > > > through all that stuff that doesn't make you blush.
> > > > > -
> > > > >
> > > > > I think you should keep the blush. Means there's something
>going
> > > > > on, on the inside.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > I've found personal anchoring to be really useful. The curve
>on the
> > > > > top of my monitor is the shape of where my shoulders should
>be when
> > > > > I'm relaxed. I then sit up straight to get my shoulders
>right. I
> > > > > caught myself doing this several times. Which is when I like
>to
> > > > > reinforce it. Might be all wrong NLP wise; but it gets me to
>sit
> > > > > properly So I'll take it.
> > > > > ---
> > > > >
> > > > > As for the speed seduction, Hearing anything done badly will
>sound
> > > > > painful. Hearing it done well, will work. But on a different
>level
> > > >as
> > > > > you know what's being done and you can enjoy the show. Like
>seeing
> > > >a
> > > > > magician doing tricks you know; but filling the stage with
>energy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Speed seduction has worked for me as in so much as, to get
> > > > > interesting answers you have to ask interesting questions, and
> > > > > interesting questions work with everyone at any time on any
>level
> > > > > about any thing.
> > > > >
> > > > > Plus feel lucky you didn't hear the person before they learnt
> > > > > anything about Speed seduction. Watch some bloke nervously or
> > > > > drunkenly bore a girl to death with work details would be way
>worse.
> > > > >
> > > > > For a laugh you should go up to them and help or tell them
>what
> > > >they
> > > > > are doing. Might make for an interesting viewing as their
>shield
> > > >and
> > > > > confidence collapse.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > By the way. if you think all of the above is rubbish - you
>might be
> > > > > right... :)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In a previous message luise_f wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bluechip:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'll try your concepts out on my squeeze later tonight, but
>it's
> > > > > > tricky due to his having the advantage of an olive-skinned
> > > > > complexion.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Will report back on test results tomorrow. :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ;)
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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