Derren Brown: Archive
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From: magic_woody
Date: Mon Mar 3, 2003 11:59pm
Subject: Re: Any budding Derrenists
Hugo or anyone else with the knowledge, would it be possible for you
to show me the patter and possibly expand on this trick as I have not
seen it? Is this the same/similar method used for the rock paper
scissors?
I have forced the three of diamonds a few times before and although I
do not always get the number right I always (well just about) get the
suit right. Even with just the suit I still leave the person with the
feeling that I have read/controlled their mind. Regularly the person
appologises for not sending the number strongly enough. The
favourite card force just about always works too!
--- In a previous message hugo_hadlow wrote:
> >>"Has anybody out there ever actually attempted to influence
> somebody (e.g. to pick a number/symbol etc) or trick somebody in
the
> way Derren does?"
>
> Yes - Guessing which hand the coin is in. It works every time, as
> long as you don't forget the patter! It's not just a case of
looking
> at their eyes! Derren has perfected the patter to direct them to
put
> the coin in a particular hand - instead of guessing which hand the
> coin is in, you cause them to put it in the particular hand. You
can
> then look at their eyes for confirmation. It's actually best to be
> looking at their eyes the whole time, especially when they are
> deciding which hand (based on your patter).
>
> Influencing is much better if you put them into a confused,
> suggestible state, as Derren does at Walthamstow, by interuppting
> their normal patterns, indulging in the unexpected.
>
> Authority is very important, but this is more confidance that it
will
> work. >>"Derren is sexy. I don't know why."
> His immaculately purple dress sense, and charm, naturally. He works
> so hard at perfecting and projecting a persona, so it's no wonder
> he's
> everyone's idol!
>
>
> >>"Look on his website (channel4 thingy) and examine the 3 of
> diamonds video."
>
> This is explained more fully in Pure Effect (
> http://www.awin1.com/tclick.php?
> id=14271&mid=134&p=http://www.magictricks.co.uk/prodshow.asp?
> code=216 ) along with the Jack of Spades. Do it fast, don't pay
much
> attention to it, otherwise people may realise what you're trying to
> do. If it works, it works, but always have a way out. I simply use
> the classic force if I need to. If you really want to do this sort of magic, do some research into
> hypnosis, NLP and Cold Reading - there are plenty of books out
there
> that aren't aimed at magicians, and these are the best ones. Don't
> use conventional magician's books, because everyone else is - I
> bought Pure Effect for "Plerophoria"!
