Derren Brown: Archive
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From: edhunter_85
Date: Mon Mar 3, 2003 8:48pm
Subject: Re: Any budding Derrenists
The guessing which hand the coin is in utilises almost all of the
techniques derren has learnt over the past 15 years... that said, it
is fairly easy to get a good success rate provided the subject is
chosen carefully and the atmosphere is right. get the subject to
bring their hands out in front of them, together, then ask them to
move them apart in one gesture. often, their nose tilts slightly
towards the hand with the coin. that in conjunction with a couple of
eriksson confusion patterns thrown in over the top works perfectly.
also look for muscle tension in the arms and wrists or again with
some influence get the 'guilty' hand to sink downwards without them
even realising.
oh, and at the walthamstow dog track the first woman he claims money
from is a confederate - just look at her smile. im not entirely sure
what the bang on the window (with the second woman) was for, but i
have 2 theories: 1)it was to break logic patterns and make her resort
to previous schemas (anticipation patterns), or 2)could it have been
to draw her eyes to a position for constructed visual images (eye
accessing cues & nlp).
--- In a previous message hugo_hadlow wrote:
> >>"Has anybody out there ever actually attempted to influence
> somebody (e.g. to pick a number/symbol etc) or trick somebody in
the
> way Derren does?"
>
> Yes - Guessing which hand the coin is in. It works every time, as
> long as you don't forget the patter! It's not just a case of
looking
> at their eyes! Derren has perfected the patter to direct them to
put
> the coin in a particular hand - instead of guessing which hand the
> coin is in, you cause them to put it in the particular hand. You
can
> then look at their eyes for confirmation. It's actually best to be
> looking at their eyes the whole time, especially when they are
> deciding which hand (based on your patter).
>
> Influencing is much better if you put them into a confused,
> suggestible state, as Derren does at Walthamstow, by interuppting
> their normal patterns, indulging in the unexpected.
>
> Authority is very important, but this is more confidance that it
will
> work. >>"Derren is sexy. I don't know why."
> His immaculately purple dress sense, and charm, naturally. He works
> so hard at perfecting and projecting a persona, so it's no wonder
> he's
> everyone's idol!
>
>
> >>"Look on his website (channel4 thingy) and examine the 3 of
> diamonds video."
>
> This is explained more fully in Pure Effect (
> http://www.awin1.com/tclick.php?
> id=14271&mid=134&p=http://www.magictricks.co.uk/prodshow.asp?
> code=216 ) along with the Jack of Spades. Do it fast, don't pay
much
> attention to it, otherwise people may realise what you're trying to
> do. If it works, it works, but always have a way out. I simply use
> the classic force if I need to. If you really want to do this sort of magic, do some research into
> hypnosis, NLP and Cold Reading - there are plenty of books out
there
> that aren't aimed at magicians, and these are the best ones. Don't
> use conventional magician's books, because everyone else is - I
> bought Pure Effect for "Plerophoria"!
