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From: singhstealth
Date: Mon Feb 17, 2003 4:25pm
Subject: Re: Colin Fry
Before I start, i'd like to big up the brixton massive and the
southall syndicate's of notoriousness...
Anyway, I was the guy who was supposed to write up a transcript from
the Collin Fry show, and im the one that started this whole megla-
camotion. I didnt write it 'cos I forgot it was asked of me, sos, my
bad.
Colin Fry staggers me in that if he is cold reading, he takes the
piss. He breaks foundational rules of cold reading and yet produces
accurate information.
I aint seen the guy in a while, they got some new geezers coming in,
there all panty-liner compared to Colin though.
Did someone mention that program about out of body experiences? That
was WICKED! Some descent theories there, and the ppl's acount's were
spooky.
Im out now, later boyz n' gyals. And remember, keep an open mind!!
--- In a previous message lauren_macsporren" wrote:
> You still haven't explained how Colin can tell someone something
that
> they haven't talked about in years. Even if he says something that
> the person thinks can't be right, he doesn't just give up, he
> persists and then when they really think about it they realise
what
> he's saying is true and remember the exact incident or whatever it
> is.
> What is this cold-reading thing then? Even if Colin is a fake I
don't
> care as I said before. He's not doing me any harm. I just think
that
> people should have an open mind if they can't prove anything. You
> don't know for absolute sure that all mediums are liars. I mean,
> before Newton, who'd have thought there was a force pulling us to
the
> ground?
>
>
> --- In a previous message wayneryder wrote:
> > OK, you asked for it...
> >
> > Magicians aren't fakes, everyone knows they're being fooled,
just
> not
> > HOW. These psychics are the most cynically manipulative scum in
> > circulation since the swindling, bouffe-haired, white-suited
> > evangelical church ministers seen in the US, and no doubt over
here
> > in droves someday.
> > If they want to get on TV and/or make people happy, why not just
> SAY
> > they're cold-readers out to amaze you with their uncanny
knowledge
> of
> > YOUR FAMILY! I can only guess it's because no-one would pay to
see
> > them, or maybe fewer people would.
> >
> > It'd be interesting (though no doubt difficult because of the
money
> > Fry & others make for the studios) to get a show made by fakes,
> > either openly or by announcing it at the end.
> >
> >
> > From James Randi's website:
> >
> > A believer recently sent in a puzzled observation to a "psychic"
> > website in the UK:
> >
> > It's my first time here and I just want to say that I think
Colin
> Fry
> > is brilliant. However, one question that puzzles me & I hope you
> > people can help! I've just been watching his programme "Sixth
> Sense"
> > on TV. He asked a general question to the whole audience but the
> > camera focused on the person who answered before they made
> themselves
> > known. Are the cameramen psychic too? Even the makers of "live"
> shows
> > like "Question Time" take a good few seconds to home in onto the
> > individual! Something not quite right here!!!
> >
> > Good observation! And I agree with your puzzlement... Another
fan
> > sent in this commentary:
> > Having been on television quite a lot, I can say from experience
> that
> > there is so much that is fake, and I find it very disappointing.
> > There is no such thing as a truly "live" show, the amount of
> planning
> > that goes into live shows is huge, particularly the ones that
are
> > actually trying to be convincing. I could say more but it is
> probably
> > not the best thing to do, [libel?] but friends who have been
with
> me
> > were amazed at how staged it all is.
> >
> > Reader John Atkinson added:
> > One of the TV psychics (Edward?) had a good method. A few weeks
> > before the show was taped, he sent out people into the community
to
> > take a survey. When these survey people were in the house,
they'd
> > take a good look around and also get as many names as they
could.
> > They already had the address. A few days later, an invitation to
> the
> > studio would arrive. No one tied the two events together. When
> these
> > people were in the studio, unknown to them, they were assigned
> seats
> > according to their address. It was now a trivial matter for
> > the "psychic" to seem to know a lot about them. The fraud was
> > discovered when a few people switched seats before the show was
> > started, and that caused a lot of embarrassment for the "star"
of
> the
> > show.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In a previous message lauren_macsporren"
>
> > wrote:
> > > Why is everyone so hung up on Colin Fry? So what if he's a
fake?
> He
> > > makes people happy so what's the problem? Magicians are fakes
for
> > > god's sake.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In a previous message wayneryder wrote:
> > > > --- In a previous message dsimon9874 wrote:
> > > > > I notice our vociferous supporter of Colin Fry never rose
to
> > the
> > > > challenge of producing us all a transcript to examine and
> discuss.
> > > > >
> > > > > Wonder why?
> > > >
> > > > Must look for a Colin Fry discussion group sometime. I'm
sure
> HE
> > > > must, from time to time.
> > > > For research purposes, naturally.
> > > >
> > > > Don't get me started...
