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From: lauren_macsporren
Date: Mon Feb 17, 2003 3:05pm
Subject: Re: Colin Fry
You still haven't explained how Colin can tell someone something that
they haven't talked about in years. Even if he says something that
the person thinks can't be right, he doesn't just give up, he
persists and then when they really think about it they realise what
he's saying is true and remember the exact incident or whatever it
is.
What is this cold-reading thing then? Even if Colin is a fake I don't
care as I said before. He's not doing me any harm. I just think that
people should have an open mind if they can't prove anything. You
don't know for absolute sure that all mediums are liars. I mean,
before Newton, who'd have thought there was a force pulling us to the
ground?
--- In a previous message wayneryder wrote:
> OK, you asked for it...
>
> Magicians aren't fakes, everyone knows they're being fooled, just
not
> HOW. These psychics are the most cynically manipulative scum in
> circulation since the swindling, bouffe-haired, white-suited
> evangelical church ministers seen in the US, and no doubt over here
> in droves someday.
> If they want to get on TV and/or make people happy, why not just
SAY
> they're cold-readers out to amaze you with their uncanny knowledge
of
> YOUR FAMILY! I can only guess it's because no-one would pay to see
> them, or maybe fewer people would.
>
> It'd be interesting (though no doubt difficult because of the money
> Fry & others make for the studios) to get a show made by fakes,
> either openly or by announcing it at the end.
>
>
> From James Randi's website:
>
> A believer recently sent in a puzzled observation to a "psychic"
> website in the UK:
>
> It's my first time here and I just want to say that I think Colin
Fry
> is brilliant. However, one question that puzzles me & I hope you
> people can help! I've just been watching his programme "Sixth
Sense"
> on TV. He asked a general question to the whole audience but the
> camera focused on the person who answered before they made
themselves
> known. Are the cameramen psychic too? Even the makers of "live"
shows
> like "Question Time" take a good few seconds to home in onto the
> individual! Something not quite right here!!!
>
> Good observation! And I agree with your puzzlement... Another fan
> sent in this commentary:
> Having been on television quite a lot, I can say from experience
that
> there is so much that is fake, and I find it very disappointing.
> There is no such thing as a truly "live" show, the amount of
planning
> that goes into live shows is huge, particularly the ones that are
> actually trying to be convincing. I could say more but it is
probably
> not the best thing to do, [libel?] but friends who have been with
me
> were amazed at how staged it all is.
>
> Reader John Atkinson added:
> One of the TV psychics (Edward?) had a good method. A few weeks
> before the show was taped, he sent out people into the community to
> take a survey. When these survey people were in the house, they'd
> take a good look around and also get as many names as they could.
> They already had the address. A few days later, an invitation to
the
> studio would arrive. No one tied the two events together. When
these
> people were in the studio, unknown to them, they were assigned
seats
> according to their address. It was now a trivial matter for
> the "psychic" to seem to know a lot about them. The fraud was
> discovered when a few people switched seats before the show was
> started, and that caused a lot of embarrassment for the "star" of
the
> show. --- In a previous message lauren_macsporren"
<>
> wrote:
> > Why is everyone so hung up on Colin Fry? So what if he's a fake?
He
> > makes people happy so what's the problem? Magicians are fakes for
> > god's sake.
> >
> >
> > --- In a previous message wayneryder wrote:
> > > --- In a previous message dsimon9874 wrote:
> > > > I notice our vociferous supporter of Colin Fry never rose to
> the
> > > challenge of producing us all a transcript to examine and
discuss.
> > > >
> > > > Wonder why?
> > >
> > > Must look for a Colin Fry discussion group sometime. I'm sure
HE
> > > must, from time to time.
> > > For research purposes, naturally.
> > >
> > > Don't get me started...
| Replies | Author | Yahoo! ID | Date | Size |
| 2780: Re: Colin Fry | singhstealth | singhstealth | Mon 17/02/2003 | 7 KB |
| 2782: Re: Colin Fry | wayneryder | wayneryder | Mon 17/02/2003 | 6 KB |
