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From: Blue Chip
Date: Sun Jan 26, 2003 2:33am
Subject: Re: [Derren Brown] How he did those tricks on TV last night!

At 15:29 25/01/03 +0000, you wrote:
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>Message: 19 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 10:52:34 -0000
>From: trentretro
>Subject: Re: Derren's on TV tongiht!
>did anyone else think that Derren really didn't need
>to ask that
>model if he'd read what she was thinking since she was
>on the other
>side of the room screaming 'oh my god' and flapping
>her arms around?
>Yeah he did actually,
>Cuz that wasn't a real memory, it was just a trance
>out thingy.
>
>How he did those 3 tricks last night:
>
>For the telepathic cards he was referencing the ONE
>card using body language and syntatic ambiguities,
>then he was referencing the FIRST card and using the
>FOLLOW THE LEADER technique he uses in MC2 at the
>football grounds. Simple, but the presentation is
>completely misleading! Its a good idea to use a trick
>that's easy and will work first, makes audience more
>open to the later, more difficult ones.
>
>For the memory one, you need to look at it again
>carefully. Notice he uses an anchor for "created past
>visualisation" he builds that anchor (cue: rubbing
>nose) sets it up with some traditional cold reading
>and then fires it off. He needs to keep her in the
>state long enuf for her reaction to set. (notice he's
>firing another anchor here, using the
>david-grey-on-speedesque HEAD NOD as a trigger, i'm
>not sure what state he's firing off, but it's probably
>a "THIS WORKS, IT IS TRUE!" programme) This is his
>most complicated trick he does and one of the few I
>haven't managed to do properly yet. I suppose it's
>just a matter of practice. He uses this same
>alteration technique for the Orson Wells trick. (look
>at it again and notice the references to ORR
>SSSSSOOOOON WWWWEEEE LLLLLS (phonetic sounds), then
>set up the created one, talk some shite about anything
>and fire it at the end...) The most "difficult" trick
>I have seen him do so far. The guy's a brilliant
>nutter! I love it!
>
>
>The third is a perfect example of misdirection and
>deception, and FANTASTIC performance! All that shite
>about telepathy from the audience is BOLLIX! all he
>does is say something to Sarah Cox like: "it's not a
>simple thing like a house or a shape or a stick
>man.... no, it's more obscure than... than that. so
>just C-lear (you can anchor this C) your mind and let
>it C-ome (he anchored one of the "C"'s by touching
>her on the shoulder) to you." if you're just trying
>this out for the first time you may want to add
>something to your audience instructions like "drive
>your thoughts into her mind" and anchor that (don't
>forget that anchors need to be fired off to have an
>effect!) That stuff he talked about in the Mind
>Control night on E4 about "the guy recognised my
>accent" isn't true... but almost credible in the same
>way his "throat reading" explanation is (i noticed you
>fell for that one Blue chip!)

Far from it - It might not be sufficient on it's own to achieve the whole
effect, but I stand by the fact that if you add it to the stack it
certainly helps. If you can embed the command "move your mouth" into the
sentence "don't move your mouth" you're away.

And after all, if you're rounding it down from one of a few knowns (ie. 52
cards in a deck; "it's not the ace of spades, that would be too obvious";
make that 48 (yes, 48)) then you already know what the answers will be. If
you ask something like "dont MOVE YOUR MOUTH, NOW<a> and think WHAT COLOUR
IS IT. <a>NOW {blah}" when they purse their lips you're on for a <B>lack

You must remember that DBs *explanations* are well founded in reality. Try
it - just don't rely on it.

> Maybe instead of giving
>away all these tricks I could sell them away... hmm...

lol - Don't you start! ;)


>P.s. if anyone's from dublin here, there was a guy on
>grafton street doing simple david blaine stuff
>yesterday. I felt like installing a few "i'm going to
>muck up every trick" programmes.. but then.. that
>would be a bit too Bandlerish.. and besides, he was
>doing a great job on the paper levitation!Happy Hunting,
>
>Steve.
>
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