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From: jamesdavidson_99
Date: Mon Jan 13, 2003 11:22pm
Subject: Re: Boring...
Hello Stephen
Can I say, to start with, that my provacative posts are just meant to
be that way - provocative.I think that being provocative is one of
the redeeming qualities of Bandler...
Much as I hate to needlessly reveal anything about myself I will
admit to having studied nlp for quite a few years. I've trained and
I've read about nlp fairly extensively. I did this because I thought
it was a breakthrough way of looking at the world. To some extent I
still believe that this is true.
I have also studied magic and mentalism extensively for quite some
time.
All I can say to you Stephen is this - if you are truly interested in
learning about the type of things that Derren does you will need to
look beyond nlp. Study magic and mentalism seriously and you will,
over time, be able to see what it is that Derren is doing.
I hate to have to even say that it's all about magic but I feel
compelled when there are people on here seemingly desperate to waste
money on nlp courses in order to "do what Derren does".
If you want to study nlp for your own reasons (and I did) then do it
but don't expect miracles...
JD
Hello.
>
> My name is Stephen and I'm very interested in NLP.
> Infact, I think I may well be one of the "NLP Bore's"
> you mentioned who have talked about Derren's methods
> in an NLP context in this egroup before! I would like
> to know more about what u mean specifically by "NLP
> Bores" and what do you mean precisely by
>
> "that his effects have something to do with what
> they've "learnt"."
>
>
> Are you implying that Derren's effects are not related
> to what "NLP bores" have learnt at all? If you are,
> how specifically do you know this?
>
> I'm really interested in what you have to say because
> I've seen things that Derren does which I would
> associate with the things I have been taught by Paul
> Mckenna and Richard Bandler and so I suppose I've
> always taken for granted that Derren uses these
> methods in at least some of his techniques.
>
> Now that you have offered your opinion on this, I
> realise that I may have been wrong and I want to
> understand how precisley I have misunderstood the
> reality!
>
>
> I love learning about new opinions that I haven't
> heard about before because I find it gives me a
> greater understanding of what Milton Erickson called
> "the things which make humans human"! Best Regards,
>
> Steve.
>
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