Derren Brown: Archive
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From: killerb_0187
Date: Thu Jan 9, 2003 4:34pm
Subject: [Derren Brown] Re: Suggestion/Autosuggestion
--- In a previous message Blue Chip wrote:
> At 07:59 09/01/03 -0800, you wrote:
> >Far be it for me to underestimate the value of
> >suggestions.
>
> LOL ;-)
>
> > Merely stating that this is a leverage
> >technique. Even bending the knees makes no odds, as
> >the effort is still expended in the correct direction,
> >whereas pushing on the elbows sends it somewhere else.
>
> I had not thought about the elbows - I will definitely try this -
you will
> move a bunch of force to the less powerful triceps for a start.
>
> But I absolutely assure you that when you learn Judo (or Jujitsu or
several
> other arts) you are taught from a very early stage, how to counter
a whole
> bunch of lifts/throws by simply bending your knees - the 'major
shoulder
> throw' is the best example of this.
>
> I noticed that the girl is wearing baggy trousers too. So it's
difficult
> to confirm - but absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
>
> >Not everything he does is suggestion, you know. In the
> >same way the the 'photo reading' effect isn't photo
> >reading.
>
> ohhh - that's a claim and a half - any insights to support it?
>
> >That's not to say that photo reading isn't
> >possible, (again, who am i...), but that wasn't how it
> >was done.
>
> DB has clearly listened to the Photoreading course, and if you do
also, you
> will see why I say that. But let me say that I think you're most
likely
> RIGHT - ie. DB is bluffing it (incredibly well, but bluffing it
> nonetheless.) Photoreading is truly incredible when you get it to
work,
> but it's all frame-of-mind and it can be tricky to achieve,
certainly when
> you start anyway. There are apparently far easier ways to achieve
this
> effect without developing advanced mental skills.
How's that then?? Please enlighten me. I didn't see any influencing
going on on Derren's part. And I cant see any 'trickary' in being
able to recite a whole paragraph almost perfectly!
