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From: steve shannon
Date: Thu Jan 9, 2003 3:53am
Subject: Thank you Ganetauk, Harry and "the one" ! Here's Some notes on method...
The one that is eluding me (unless my _guess_ is
right) is the "put it in
the hand that feels right and leave the one that's
left empty. That's my
left of course, but don't let me influence you."
I'm guessing that this is a confusion method to cover
what he is actually
doing. Maybe there is a subtle tonality that I am
missing. Any ideas?
I love your guess! And of course it's right! I imagine
you have fantastic intuition and rarely have major
arguments with people but are sometimes not the very
confident and "together" person other people sometimes
seem to think of you as being! Can you see what I'm
talking about??
I have a few ideas of my own that help me to
understand more clearly what it is we're both
attempting to describe. I'd like to write them here
for you now.
I think the sentence Derren uses with the radio DJ, Jo
Whiley:
"put it in
the hand that feels right and leave the one that's
left empty. That's my
left of course, but don't let me influence you."
is a typical (but in this case, purposefully not
eloquent or subtle) example of what is normally
described in NLP terminology as a MILTON MODEL
STRUCTERE type sentence. In closer terms, this can be
the use of what Dr. Erickson described as "the art of
being vague"
The basic structure of this sentence overuses
AMBIGUITY to CONFUSE and DISTRACT Jo Whiley. While
subtle use of AMBIGITY is highly effective
sub-liminally (beyond the threshold of conscious
response), Derren purposefully overuses it here to
effect three different systems:
- He is appealing to Jo's metal map where Jo wants to
let Derren know that she's more AWARE of his methods
than most. This is my interpretation, based on the
entire interview conversation leading UP to this Point
in Time in the broadcast. Making this MORE obvious
gives her a perfect but insignificant leverage. We
could refer to this as a "venting" system.
- He is DISTRACTING Jo by making her inadvertedly pay
attention to the WORDs he is saying rather than the
non-verbal signals I imagine he was using at that
time. This is targeted to her conscious
"word-analysis" system, distracting her from her
conscious (but mostly unconscious) "non-verbal
analysis" system.
- And finally, He is appealing to her "Humour" system
by obviously dramatising the created theme of
CONFUSION, a theme which is the perspective of the
whole trick. People find word ambiguities funny. Take
this joke, for example:
"What's the difference between an egg and a wank?"
"You can't beat a wank!"
This is a play on the syntactic ambiguity of the word
BEAT.
Now you figure out this one:
"What's the difference between anal sex and oral sex?"
"A blow job makes your whole day, but
anal sex makes your hole week"
This involes a Phonetic Ambiguity.
The sense of humor appeal does 3 things: It distracts,
developes rapport and blows the ego-defence barriers
away for a brief moment. These are helpful.
so You see now, why Derren's taken 10 years to be able
to Understand this stuff in a SIGNIFICANT and USEFUL
way!!
Take it easy on yourself, you're going to get there
either way.
Steve.
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