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From: steve shannon
Date: Mon Jan 6, 2003 7:12pm
Subject: For Terry the NLPer!
by the way (i wont say "which way?"...and "who is by
it"..nor will i
speak of possible techniques for creating "new ways"
etc lol...i will
end that here..(where?)..lol) does anyone here know of
the technique
of a..."thought virus"...robert dilts' book "sleight
of mouth" has
the information. www.nlpu.com has an online NLP
...biiiiigggg book
too...again byyyyy the way (same way?)
advanced NLPers here? if so you will like the
following...I found
that you can use the Metamodel (in real life
conversation) to break
down a person's mental map to such a point that you
can give them
a "major" (explicit, obvious) suggestion.
I modelled the pattern from a guy Ed Douge. Basic
details - Use
metamodel questions, three times - FAST...(must be in
rapport, or you
really!!!! mess up lol)...then you just say your
suggestion right
out, again MUST BE FAST.
To work, you use this technique WITHIN normal
conversation (i.e.
normal conversation either side of technique). The
metamodel
questions should be quick, the person then goes inside
to process,
then you fire suggestion....thhhhen continue with
conversation.
Trust me, get good at this and you can have lots
of..er..fun ;) The
dustmen in my road put my bins back very nicely
now...all i did was
have a "quick/fast" chat :oP
Reading face cues when the person is thinking of
something?....clue...
concentrate on the areas between eyes down to the TOP
of the mouth.
Specifically, watch the cheeks. Add to this colding
reading
techniques. You'll be able to master this skill with
practice.
Terry,
I'm a master practitioner and have been modeling
derren for the last few weeks. I've noticed the head
nod as a rapport technique and I've noticed the very
eloquent calibration techniques which turn into a real
fireball when he triggers the same patterns he
mirrors. example: the milton handshake on the girl at
the opera (great confusion induction technique btw.)
Talking to Paul Mckenna recently (i'm not a friend, I
just happened to meet him after a show he did in
Dublin. Imagine Dr. Bandler, Paul and myself drinking
straight Irish whiskey all night!!) he was using all
these very awkward (turbulent) reframes on the bar
staff and I didn't understand why until he explained
that his intention was to loop different states, and
the awkward reframes helped to anchor the primary
(frustration) It was great cuz they ended up letting
us stay on in the bar after they'd left which was
STRICTLY AGAINST COMPANY POLICY TO LEAVE FOR
GUESTS(reframed to POLICY TO STRICTLY LEAVE GUESTS TO
COMPANY!, fire off a few "home is where the heart is"
metaphors and bob's your uncle!)
I don't understand, however, what you mean by "I will
give you THE biggest clue .. jshchdgsoft g zssoft
ctdetc."
BTW, read frogs recently? "I will
give you THE biggest clue" is a very effective
Bandlerism. I assume it was unconscious on you part?!!
anyway, I don't know what you mean. so kindly explain.
please?? :)
as for "Reading face cues when the person is thinking
of something" I don't agree. It could be
misinterpreted as the EAC's normally are. You must
calibrate each state to a specific pattern. And
different people have.... (guess what i'm going to
say!) different patterns!!
So now. With those seven chunks of nice information
let my thoughts go with you.
Be Good,
Steve
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