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From: Blue Chip
Date: Thu Dec 19, 2002 10:23am
Subject: Re: hypnosis practice.
Don't mean to decry your mathematial skills, but 10% of £12.00 is £1.20
>I think the usual fees to any books writer is usually only 10% so that's
>11 to 12p per copy, so though it's nice, it's not a whole lot really.
>
>
>Kind Regards
>Harry Cannon M.I.A.H. D.hyp
>Member of the International Association of Hypn-Analysts
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: killerb_0187 [mailto:]
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>To:
>Subject: [Derren Brown] Re: hypnosis practice.
>
>--- In a previous message Blue Chip wrote:
> >
> > >So for being such a pessimist, but NLP is starting to seem a little
> > >cheesy to me, a good way of for the creators to make money. I don't
> > >know why I feel like that, I just do!
> >
> > "A rose is still a rose by any other name"
> > NLP is a trade marked term. And for as long as we live in a
>capitalist
> > society, we will have to accept that many judge their position in
>society
> > by the amount of money they have. And after all, it's all
>about "whatever
> > makes you happy" at the end of the day.
> > Do not be discouraged that some people do this for money. There
>really are
> > some great skills to be learned - one being the skill in finding
>harmony in
> > the world you live in - a world generally full of idiots; everyone,
>that
> > is, except YOU. (did you feel my tongue reach out toward your
>bottom
> > crevice there?)
>
>
>Uhh, I dont think so, I mean, I HOPE NOT!! :)
>
>They must be making a "killing" on NLP I'm thinking. I recently
>brought frogs into princes for around £11.95, I haven't read it yet,
>but when I looked at the back, it said the book had sold over 250,000
>copies. Then when I looked at the new editions publishing date, it
>was quite some years back, so undoubtely sales numbers would have
>doubled or tripled by then atleast, yet I stuck to those numbers:
>
>250,000 * £11.95 = A hell of dosh by any standards... Almost 3
>million pounds, on ONE book!
>
>Maybe thats why I feel a little sckeptical when it comes to NLP.
> >
> > > > It has little use in the real world, as many people are scared
>of
> > > > hypnosis, and worried about loosing cotrol, and closing their
>eyes,
> > > > etc
> > >
> > >Agreed here also,
> >
> > You need to look at your skills in conciously "inducing a state of
> > psychological comfort with your 'partner'" or "rapport" (as it has
>been
> > termed.)
>
>
>Sorry, I dont really understand what you mean here...
> >
> > > while I don't know that much about NLP, I do feel
> > >that a lot of unecessary technical terms are used, and I think that
> > >someone else here said this also... It just adds to the 'fakeness'
>of
> > >it all I believe...
> >
> > brb, lol, cya, ram-drive, pci bus, hard drive, floppy, stiffy (for
>all
> > south african members), CRT, RGB, VGA
> >
> > Once you have a definition for each word, then it is easier to
>say "anchor"
> > than "make a thing happen, then do a special different thing such
>that when
> > the second thing is repeated the first thing is triggered again."
> >
> > The opening pages to Douglas Adams 'Mostly Harmless' (a generally
>crap book
> > imho) explains this quite well in (as I recall) four sentences
>spread over
> > four pages... "anchor" is still a simpler term to use in general
>discussion
> > - particularly on specialist news groups.
>
>Right, I had a feeling somebody would do that. It was quite a poor
>argument that I used.
>
>The way that NLP is structured in a way that a computer program is,
>intruigues but baffles me at the same time. I think I heard Richard
>saying "Throw out the old code, and make some new code", and I
>genuinely believed that he may have been talking about renovating
>some C source code or something, when I finally remembered that I had
>searched for NLP.
>
>Is this done to help us or confuse us?
>
> >
> > > > Covert Waking trance, though not as deep (unless
>experienced) on
> > > > the other hand is much more useful for persuading people in
>terms
> > >of
> > > > sales / seduction / friendships / Negotiation and Persuasion.
> > > >
> > >
> > >Right, I love the waking stuff. While I'm still ploughing through
>the
> > >Encyclopedia of Stage Hypnotism, the waking stuff is very
>intruiging
> > >and seems to link very closely to what derren does in some of his
> > >stunts.
> >
> > Would you be more specific about what you term a "Covert Waking
>Trance"
> > It kinda makes sense, but I could be way off.
>
>I didn't write 'Covert Waking Trance'.
>
>...I wrote 'the waking stuff', and what I meant by that was basically
>waking hypnosis, or waking suggestion, simple things that can be done
>without putting someone into a deep trance. Kinda rapid stuff Derren
>does now and then!
> >
> > Bc
>
>
>
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| Replies | Author | Yahoo! ID | Date | Size |
| 1958: Re: hypnosis practice. | Harry Cannon | cannon8alluk | Thu 19/12/2002 | 8 KB |
| 1960: Re: hypnosis practice. | Blue Chip | cs_bluechip | Thu 19/12/2002 | 10 KB |
| 1964: Re: hypnosis practice. | Harry Cannon | cannon8alluk | Thu 19/12/2002 | 11 KB |
| 1965: ebooks and information. | ganetauk | ganetauk | Thu 19/12/2002 | 2 KB |
| 1995: Re: ebooks and information. | killerb_0187 | killerb_0187 | Sat 21/12/2002 | 2 KB |
| 2001: Re: ebooks and information. | ganetauk | ganetauk | Sat 21/12/2002 | 2 KB |
| 2010: Re: ebooks and information. | Blue Chip | cs_bluechip | Sun 22/12/2002 | 3 KB |
| 2022: Re: ebooks and information. | killerb_0187 | killerb_0187 | Mon 23/12/2002 | 3 KB |
| 1993: Re: hypnosis practice. | killerb_0187 | killerb_0187 | Sat 21/12/2002 | 3 KB |
