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From: mjm710
Date: Mon Nov 25, 2002 9:38pm
Subject: Re: Friday Night with Jonathan Ross show
> > I think a lot of it is presentation. The same card trick done by
> Paul
> > Daniels would undoubtably be absolute bobbins.
>
> Don't talk to me about paul daniels lol - sure he was good for his
> time - but im just fed up of seeing him still popping up
I haven't spotted Paul Daniels (aka P Diddy) in ages. The last thing
I saw him in was the Louis Theroux show where he came out very
badly. Before that I saw a programme with him starting from scratch
in USA performing under a pseudonym (like anyone knew/cared who Paul
Daniels was anyway). He actually came across a lot better. He had to
rely a lot more on his ability with a deck of cards and not on some
notoriety and well worn catchphrases. But as you pointed out - he
is "of his time" and doesn't translate too well.
>i am definately going to watch more,
> even if it does spoil it, it helps to show just how much you don't
> see on the tv. I have no doubt that even our derren is guilty of
that
> once or twice in the show (obviously not often.... but then... no
> wait dont kill me"! PLEASE dont kill me!!! ;)
I think pre-show work has been hinted at here numerous times and
there is always the option of editing things to make the effect that
bit better in the post production.
> > Good job you didn't see the Jonathan Woss show then. Blaine "put
a
> > surgical needle through his hand". He said the trick was still in
> > development which would explain why the needle seemed to have
> doubled
> > its length by the time it had "passed through" his hand.
>
> *snigger* and *eeeeeeeww* at the same time - it doesnt seem right
to
> me though - why would an established and well-known performer bring
> to light a trick that wasn't perfected? he's just asking for a lot
of
> criticism for it!
Well that's assuming anyone watches the show! As you have pointed out
most sensible people have better things to do on a Friday night.
> > Was that when he read someone's mind for a name and the taxi went
> > past in the background of the shot? I'm still flabbergasted!
>
> YES thats the one! I loved it! Was a bit curious as to why the
camera
> went off the girl's face for a bit - thought there was some
> trickiness involved, then when she made no reaction at first (to
the
> name on the taxi) i entertained the thought that it could have been
> dubbed in later - but then she did react to SOMETHING - but we
didn't
> really see what it was...
>
> By that time the taxi was (at an esitmate) too far away for her to
> casually spot the name on the taxi - and we don't see what david is
> doing off shot - it could have been anything to make them
> go "argh"... i dunno - it still intrigues me but i imagine there's
> some trickiness involved there...
I dunno. His knowing what the name she was thinking of is more
impressive to me (however he got it). I think the taxi is more a
novel way of revealing it - a unique presentation. IIRC it was
scrawled on the cab with spray paint? I thought that the camera
focussed on the cab, then back on the woman and then DB attracted the
woman's attention onto the cab - but it has been a while since I saw
it!
/Mike
>
> Enjoying this btw ;)
>
> Gilraen
