Derren Brown: Archive
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From: killerb_0187
Date: Wed Oct 30, 2002 7:42pm
Subject: Re: General stuff on MC3
I totally disagree with you in every sense.
--- In a previous message Philip Collins wrote:
> I've said it before but ill say it again, it's not REAL. its TV
anyone who
> has read 'pure effect' please back me up. Derren is the kind of guy
who will
> go to any extreme to present the most amazing effects. what makes
this trick
> really amazing is that anyone who doesnt believe in hypnosis/nlp
cant
> understand how it was done and anyone who studies
trance/subconcious mind
> and pattern interupts as part of nlp thinks to themselves wow this
guy has
> taken this skill far beyond I have seen it used before.
> What i'm saying is that Derren knows people will spend ages trying
to find
> out about interupting patterns because according to the theory
these kinds
> of things do work and they do work. But that is not what is
happening here.
> DOnt get me wrong I believe that with some pre-show covert hypnosis
and a
> pre installed suggestion could have been the method used but its
unlikely.
> Think about it the first woman was set up when derren went up with
the first
> ticket. "oh yeah sorry you have won" she is obvious with her smile.
The
> second woman in order for it to be what derren wants us to believe
it was
> i.e pattern inturrept, confusion and subliminal commands then this
pattern
> interupt would have had to generate a visual hallucination as she
was
> reading the machine.
> I'm not saying she wasn't duped necessarily but I am saying it
can't be done
> without some pre-show work and If I was derren and i wanted to do a
trick
> like that as part of one of my shows then I would surely think of
an easier
> and RELIABLE method. Think about it with clear eyes if that were
true then
> derren would be working for MI5 not channel 4.
> In fact he wouldnt be working at all he'd be at the dog's 24-7.
> THe fact that we spend time reading up on pattern interrupts is a
credit to
> his performance his book pure effect clearly states that he aims
for his
> audiences to have some idea of how it was done at the end of his
shows.
> "Decide what it would look like of you could really do it. Hint at
the
> method you would use if you really could do it and let them draw
conclusions
> for themselves"
>
>
