Derren Brown: Archive
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From: killerb_0187
Date: Wed Oct 30, 2002 6:06pm
Subject: Re: pure genius
--- In a previous message xnetman99 wrote:
> --- In a previous message Philip Collins wrote:
> > Whatever the guy's a genius.
>
> Intelligent, yes, a great performer, yes. Genius - Probably not.
>
> > In paper scissors stone watch....
> >
> > He starts "you know th agme paper scissors stone where you bang
> your hand
> > three times and come out with something like this (gestures
> scissors)
>
> Ok here we go...Whilst I'm certainly not going to be giving out any
> secrets. Derren has well and truly pulled the wool over people's
> eyes. To be honest I don't why so many people speculate about how
> Derren achieves his effects. If you go and read books on mentalism
> perhaps a few people will be able to see beyond the 'psychological'
> cover that Derren uses for many of his effects (a few psychological
> effects may be included to mis-lead but that's another topic
> altogether). As far as NLP is concerned - save your money, there is
> very little use for NLP in mentalism. If you are looking for
answers
> in order to perform them, can't you be a little more original, be
> yourself perhaps? Personally I would suggest you sit back and enjoy
> the performance. However if people must persist...
>
> You will probably find the solution is a bit more simple than your
> suggestion. Do you think what you suggest is reliable enough??
>
> > In the coin in the hand - the second guess serves both as fishing
> and to set
> > up a psychological bind for the third guess.
> >
> > "this one tells me wether you're a challenger (gesturing to his
> right)
>
> Ummm. Again some of Derren's masterful cover. Whilst there are a
> couple of 'physical responses' that can be used these *generally*
> aren't reliable enough to wager £50 over 5 attempts. Think again if
> you really must.
>
> > Lets have some feedback then....
> >
> > The blind man was simple leading He knows in advance the mans
> choice of
> > location and favourite food and music.
>
> Could be 'psychological', but speculating isn't really going to
give
> you the answer. Try constructing a scenario for someone you know.
> See how successful you are. If you are interested in psychological
> forces I refer you to Banachek's Psychological Subtleties.
>
> If you or anyone here really is interested in this branch of magic,
> mentalism, I would suggest starting with something like 13 Steps to
> Mentalism by Corinda...and remember to keep the secrets to
yourself.
> They are too valuable to just give away. Focus on yourself as a
> performer rather than the effects themselves that way you'll seem
to
> be able to pull off the impossible.
>
> XNetman
I think that's one of the problems with people. They are afraid of
revealing their 'secrets'. I, luckily, don't have such a mentality.
What's the point of a newsgroup if you're not going to discuss
anything!?
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