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From: Philip Collins
Date: Mon Oct 21, 2002 6:42am
Subject: Re: [Derren Brown] Re: Yet more handhake interruption stuff
What in your opinion is the best 'Desmond Morris' to read?
Ta
>From: ganetauk
>Reply-To:
>To:
>Subject: [Derren Brown] Re: Yet more handhake interruption stuff
>Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:32:14 -0000
>
>"was the girl only hypnotised at the very point when Derren
>interrupted her handshake pattern, or was this simply the most
>obvious of a series subtle hypno-techniques?"
>
>I have been creating various models based on derren brown's
>techniques.
>
>Answering your question based on my mental map and modelling...
>
>Picks right subject...notice how she responds more than other girls
>there. Installs FIRST HAND SHAKE....most people miss this...set up
>shake.
>
>he develops deep levels of rapport...via pacing...then uses
>second 'induction handshake'...and continues pacing....and also at
>this point uses more leading...
>
>(leading is also used to check rapport...if they follow rapport is
>there. - Clue...Headnobs etc- this is working as a double-bind
>gesture...its doing two things. Testing and installing 'yes'
>response).
>
>The suggestions are in the form of embedded commands and tonal
>markings. (Including use of voice tempo) "am i inside or outside?"
>speeds up on "outside" and so on. Classic Erickson techniques.
>
>If you listen (and watch for head movements...ie. a number of slight
>movements to the right, marking out the embedded commands etc - her
>left ear picks these up slightly more. Left ear connects to right
>side brain etc. Complex and detailed stuff really), you might notice
>the building up of rapport and suggestion.
>
>All the DB techniques are 'framed' with rapport.
>
>There are many more patterns. The patterns can be sorted into
>linguistic, mental and behavioural. Read Desmond Morris! lol
>
>Regards terry
>
>
>--- In a previous message vlaca_malacca wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm new to this group, but have been interested in Derren's
>abilities
> > since I first saw him a few years ago (on TV, I've not had the
> > pleasure of seeing him perform in 3D!).
> >
> > I'm intrigued by the idea of pattern-breaking & NLP techniques used
> > to make the "victim" more "malleable" [sorry for the unfortunate
> > terms, but they're the best desciptions I can come up with right
> > now].
> >
> > In MC 2, Derren does his photo-description trick on a young lady
> > who's just sat through an opera. I noticed that Derren used the
> > handshake interruption quite dramatically at one point, and the
>girl
> > was instantly hypnotised/semi-hypnotised. My question is, was the
> > girl only hypnotised at the very point when Derren interrupted her
> > handshake pattern, or was this simply the most obvious of a series
> > subtle hypno-techniques?
> >
> > I suppose what I'm really asking is whether or not you can use the
> > HSI on its own to hypnotise someone.
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Tim
>
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| Replies | Author | Yahoo! ID | Date | Size |
| 1364: Re: Yet more handhake interruption stuff | marcthomashogan | marcthomashogan | Mon 21/10/2002 | 2 KB |
| 1393: Re: Yet more handhake interruption stuff | ganetauk | ganetauk | Tue 22/10/2002 | 5 KB |
