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From: beyondthemagic
Date: Sat Jun 15, 2002 4:09pm
Subject: Embedded command recipe
Ithullian, is that not more about voice intonation and marking out
than embedded commands?, an embedded command would be more like a
message contained within a message and then made seperate by
special emphasis,somewhat like a Russian doll. The idea is to make a
statement and highlight specific aspects of that statement so that it
contains a secondary message that you would like to impart
(unconsciously), it can be easier to construct a command and then put
it into a sentence for marking, for example to gain rapport with
someone you could give them commands for liking you, you could then
put this into a sentence and mark out your intended command with
tonality-volumme-a touch-a look or a gesture (ala tony blair)even
italics or fonts etc etc.
"So mister/miss car buyer, YOU LIKE ME, want a good deal, YOU WANT A
CAR that says to you YOU CAN TRUST ME to start first time, BUY NOW
you must have a good idea what you would like, so please have a look
around, SPEND as much time as you need and if YOU NEED ME TO HELP YOU
in any way then when YOUR READY just let me know and I'LL BE GLAD TO
HELP. (you like me,you want a car, you can trust me,buy now,spend,
your ready, I'll be glad to help)
The distraction for the conscious mind is the content of the message,
the unconscious is then free to absorb the commands (unconsciously)
if it so chooses, it is worth remembering that we process information
using both hemispheres of the brain simnultaneously.I spent a long
time learning these through practice, the trick is to realise that
they have to be subtle and innocuous-use them like seasoning-
sparingly. In the begining, to know that you are getting results, you
have to use commands that can be observable-things like scratching or
blinking or yawning or smiling etc etc, put them into sentences and
then mark those commands out with consistency-persitence is the key-
it could take a few minutes for the message to sink in-there is a guy
called Ross Jeffries who runs courses in the States teaching guys how
to bed women using these very techniques-Louis Theroux recently spent
some time with him making a docummentary.One of the co-founders of
NLP used to use these commands to teach their effectivness
, he would say something like "One thing that people have to get
about my work is just how HANDY it can be and for some of us that can
be very UPLIFTING, it can be fun to get YOUR FINGER out because we're
just begining to SCRATCH the surface if they have the ITCH but who
NOSE" (I personally witnessed around 100 students scratch their noses)
On a one to one basis it can be fun to deliver the message to one eye-
and the commands for special attention into the other eye-
theoretically you could use eyes-volumme-itonation-a gesture and a
touch all at the same time and then cover the main senses of seeing-
hearing and touch (VAK) the more senses you pursue the better the
results will be.
--- In a previous message ithullian wrote:
> Obviouslly derren uses techniques of creating rapport and pacing.
> However before he goes onto his actual 'trick' he usually talks to
> the person who will be involved. This is because as he does this
he
> is distracting their conscious minds, and therefore making any
> suggestion much more powerful....To do this he usually uses the
same
> method...by introducing some ambiguity to his language. for
> example 'speaking to you as an intelligent person....' (who is the
> intelligent person, me or you or both of us?). The mind is
> distracted, although it may b very subtle to us as we experience
it.
> How often in daily life does someone say something and we suddenly
go
> off into our own day dream world without even noticing it.
>
> Once the unconscious mind is more exposed then he can put in his
> commands. However he canot just command you directly or your
> conscious mind will realise, and become alert. One such way to get
> past this is to use embedded commands (explained below).
>
> Notice when u ask a question your voice tone goes up at the end.
> When you give a statement your voice tone stays level. When a
command
> is given, the tone goes down at the end of the command, when
spoken.
> Embedding commands means putting a question to somebody, but using
a
> commanding tonality at the end. For example if you where to
say "will
> you go the cinema with me?" but instead of raising your voice at
the
> end, lowered the tone instead on the words 'go to the cinema with
> me', then the suconscious mind would pick up the words 'go to the
> cinema with me' as a command. The consious mind remains unaware
> though, as u only asked a question after all (nudge nudge wink
wink).
>
> Final points. The change in tone is only very subtle, dont over do
it
> and use a barry white tone for a command, when u usually talk like
> alan ball. Finally, the commands word best if u put the in the
> present tense. thanx for listening...good to be back. Ithullian
