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From: highroller entertainment casting
Date: Sun Apr 7, 2002 6:42pm
Subject: Re: The phobia thing.
--- In a previous message chrispeck18 wrote:
> Sorry I haven't posted for some time but my computer has been in
for
> repairs, as have I.
>
> About the phobia thing I mentioned. It happens from time to time to
> hypnotherapist mainly when they first begin practicing (like me).
You
> see to achieve a true state of hypnosis you need to create an
> environment that allows for this. The client will be very receptive
> to suggestion this way. However hypnotherapist, if they do not
> protect them self, can take on aspects of phobias from the client
at
> a subconscious level, because of the hypnotic environment.
>
> Hypnotherapists need to learn to forget during the sessions so that
> this doesn't happen. That why me take a lot of notes during the
> sessions.
>
> Unfortunately if we do get the phobias, we then need to go into
> hypnotherapy ourselves, to get the phobias out again. But because
we
> have extensive knowledge of how a hypnotherapist gets the phobias
> out, our subconscious can protect itself and make it incredibly
> difficult to get to the phobias source and so resolve them.
Luckily,
> as I'm just your common, two for a pound, hypnotherapist I can go
to
> a more advanced hypnotherapist who has more knowledge and
techniques
> to get the phobias out. Which, I did a few days ago.
>
> Hope that answered your question.
>
> Chris
No, sorry, it doesn't really allay my suspicions. Firstly, as a
practicing hypnotist myself, I do not buy the notion of a 'hypnotic
environment' being needed to induce a 'true' hypnotic state...it is
just as feasible to hypnotise someone on an Underground train, a 747,
or in a room full of other people as it is to hypnotise someone one-
on-one in a hypnotherapy practice situation. As long as they can hear
you relatively clearly, you can hypnotise them.
Secondly, are there any documented examples of this phenomena? And
does it have a proper name like other hypnotic phenomena such as
cryptomnesia? I only ask because I have never heard of such a thing,
and your assertion that lesser hypnotherapists who succumb to this
condition need only to visit a more qualified/experienced
hypnotherapist to be cured of them raises a paradox in the nature
of 'Who watches the watchmen?', as it follows that they would in turn
need to seek out even more experienced/qualified hypnotherapists to
alleviate their own subconsciously acquired conditions, and so and so
on until we are trying to contact the spirit of Milton Erickson with
a Ouiija board!
Also, I find the notion of having to 'forget' and thus take lots of
notes during the session highly unusual as well. Asides from not
having your hands free and not being able to watch/mirror the client
whilst writing, most hypnotists deal with issues raised there and
then, not in future sessions, and by taking a simple case history of
the client beforehand you eliminate the need for this almost entirely.
Finally, it strikes me as something of a double-bind that you must
visit another hypnotherapist to cure YOU of a condition you can
apparently cure someone else of, which beggars the question: Why
can't you do it yourself via self-hypnosis? You obviously know the
correct therapeutic technique and/or strategy to pursue, so why don't
you?
All told, I find it very difficult to give credence to such a notion
of adopting client conditions...... If this was true, every male
hypnotist would have the following disclaimer on their ads: 'No cases
of male sexual dysfunction/impotence please!' After all, if your
theory holds any water with regards to hypnotherapists being more
difficult to cure because they know how the cure works (Which I would
have thought would actually make things easier, what with most
hypnotists/hypnotherapists being highly sophisticated trance subjects
with the ability to go quickly and deeply into trance states due to
continued practice), then it is going to be even more difficult to
remove said symptoms from hypnotherapists with an even greater
understanding of how the problem/cure works, which brings us back
again to the'Who watches the watchmen' syndrome.
Also, you state that hypnotherapists need to 'learn to forget', as
their subconscious will otherwise absorb characteristics of the
client, yet then go on to contradict yourself by saying that
the 'subconscious can protect itself' thus making removal of said
characteristics doubly difficult. Indeed, whilst I am prepared to
concede that the subconscious can take on suggestions which are not
beneficial, surely this would be countered by the positive
suggestions you give the client, which your subconscious mind would
no doubt also pick up on and adopt?
Anyway, sorry to ramble on like this, but I think your theory has
some serious flaws.
Best Wishes,
Daniel
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| 801: Re: The phobia thing. | gordo_ala_moore | gordo_ala_moore | Mon 08/04/2002 | 5 KB |
| 802: Re: The phobia thing. | daz_rythmn | daz_rythmn | Mon 08/04/2002 | 2 KB |
| 803: Re: The phobia thing. | gordo_ala_moore | gordo_ala_moore | Mon 08/04/2002 | 4 KB |
