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From: richard
Date: Sun May 11, 2003 3:34pm
Subject: Re: [Derren Brown] Re: You're all very attractive...
Precisely...why not slaughter as many so-called magic 'sacred cows' as possible
through this group....not to put magicians/mentalists/psychological
illusionists out of work - but to understand & enjoy the artistry ,
entertainment & 'effects' of the best of 'em..among whom I rank DB v.v.highly -
it may also make us less gullible individuals ( As creatures of Habit we should
question - Everything ) and appreciate the real magic...being in possession of
a human brain ( regrettably without the 'user manual' having been provided at
birth).
TTFN
Rich
-----Original Message-----
From : "nxnzerx "
To : derrenbrown@y...
Date : 11 May 2003 11:02:00
Subject : [Derren Brown] Re: You're all very attractive...
Good example and good points, nice post R
>
>If you have read Pure Effect you will be aware of Derrens opinion on
>stooges, setups and little "reminders" given to the participants.
>All he is concerned about is the final appearance of the effect, the
>end justifies the means...
>
>
>--- In a previous message, richardwrote:
>> One way ( but not the way the advertising agency trick was
>performed ) to do "telepathic" drawings - get two people , one
>to 'transmit' , the other to 'receive' but don't specifically say
>who has to do what task ; plus two large note/drawing pads - prepare
>these before-hand by making small perforations across the top each
>of the two pages ( about two inches down )that will be drawn upon in
>both pads ( this will allow the pages to be torn out with relative
>ease ) . Above the perforations on each pad ; write ,for
>example ,'Transmit drawing of a dog " ( the instructions written
>also beforehand without knowledge of the participants).
>> Neither of the two persons knows the other has the same
>instructions written on their respective note-pads ; then ask them
>to transmit the image in simple form ( without mentioning what the
>image is...or again any designation of who is meant to be
>transmitting/receiving ). Ask them both to concentrate very hard on
>the image to be transmitted then draw it. When both have finished ,
>tear out the drawings below the perforations from each note
>pad...the written instructions are left in the pads - the drawings
>shown to the participants. ....At face value it may seem a
>disappointing trick to know how to do , but get past the 'props' ,
>and what makes the trick work is psychological deception.
>> Okay , some in this group may be very disappointed if , as has
>been suggested , some of DB
>> TV tricks are 'set-ups' - you can take DB out of magicianship ,
>but you can't take the magicianship out of DB! He is not 'psychic' &
>has never claimed to be . Its the 'effect' that matters - that we
>may have in some cases got close to how DB does stuff shouldn't
>cause disappointment if as we should all have known at the outset ,
>these had nothing to do with 'paranormal' or 'supernatural'
>abilities.
>> TTFN
>> Rich
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From : "Craig R. Lemon"
>> To : derrenbrown@y...
>> Date : 10 May 2003 23:42:16
>> Subject : Re: [Derren Brown] Re: You're all very attractive...
>> One thing that is really peeing me off about this group is the
>number of
>> >people who say:
>> >
>> >"oh i know how x, y or z was done, but i'm not telling you
>because i'm not
>> >supposed to/i'm a magician/i'm a twerp"
>> >
>> >Frankly if you know how something was done but aren't prepared to
>pony up
>> >the good and explain then you should shut up about it - and if
>you think
>> >someone is wrong with a theory, then explain WHY not just dismiss
>it.
>> >
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From:
>> >To:
>> >Sent: 10 May 2003 22:09
>> >Subject: [Derren Brown] Re: You're all very attractive...
>> >
>> >
>> >> I don't agree with that. The difference is that Blaine and
>> >> Copperfield don't actually claim that they are levitating or
>walking
>> >> through stuff.
>> >>
>> >> If the ad guy thing was completely fake I'd be quite pissed
>off 'cos
>> >> that isn't impressive in the slightest. Anyone could do that.
>> >>
>> >> BTW, what evidence is there that it was faked?!?
>> >>
>> >
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