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From: mrb_bailey
Date: Fri May 2, 2003 2:17am
Subject: Re: [Derren Brown] Are you anti-christ ?
There is only one King.
And his name begins with E
thank you kindly
uhh uh uh.
uncle-christ
--- In a previous message, Kirsty Smith
wrote:
> Thats no problem, I had the catholic upbringing myself.....went to
a school run by nuns and so feel that Im fully qualified to agree
with you on that, so.... Amen!
>
> richardwrote:Sorry Kirsty - 'Amen' was just a moment of
regression to my Catholic upbringing..it just came out in
a 'Freudian Slip' sort of way - when what I really meant to say
was " I hate Nuns"...carry on the discussion...please?
> TTFN
> Rich
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From : Kirsty Smith
> To : derrenbrown@y...
> Date : 01 May 2003 12:57:09
> Subject : Re: [Derren Brown] Are you anti-christ ?
> Just adding my own random thoughts.....Amen means 'I agree' so no-
one needs to add it to the end of their post unless they are
schitzophrenic......
> >
> >richardwrote:Joel - several points here from a very lapsed
Catholic and probably one of the older members of this Group.
> >
> >1. The Bible is not a book , but a collection of writings - none
of which , as far I i'm aware , were ever actually written at or
around the time Jesus Christ lived ( I'm not disputing the fact that
he is a historical figure ) - the earliest seem to have been several
hundred years after the event. Even in this day & age ,we would be
hard-pressed for real accuracy if we started writing about a figure
who lived in the 16th or 17th century about whom all we knew were
verbal sources handed down from generation to generation.
> >2. The Bible has been transcribed & re-transcribed from older
languages & very probably has been accidentally or deliberately
translated in the process.
> >3. Iraq occupies what has been called the 'Cradle Of
Civilisation' and has been argued by some Christian theologians as
the site of The Garden Of Eden' .
> >4. The Bible shows that the Canaanites who later became
Israelites were an invading , dispossessing tribe who justified
their violence by reference to the Will of God - some things never
change.
> >5. It is one thing to have Faith - but an unquestioning one in
its worst guise leads to all forms of fraud , abuse , atrocities and
the suspension of logic , reason & basic humanity.
> >
> >I don't believe members of this Group are necessarily 'anti-
christ' - just evidencing a healthy skeptisism & inquistiveness
about religions & 'miracles' in general.
> >Amen!
> >TTFN
> >Rich .
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >
> >From : ýJoel ý
> >To : derrenbrown@y...
> >Date : 01 May 2003 09:01:54
> >Subject : [Derren Brown] Are you anti-christ ?
> >I have noticed that there has been several posts recently that
are
> >>dismissive of the belief that Jesus is as the bible describes
him or
> >>that his miracles were genuine.
> >>
> >>I agree that you could replicate similar effects with magic.
> >>I know that there are many influences nowadays that suggest that
it
> >>is cool to be anti-christ, you see it on T-shirts and in music
all
> >>the time.
> >>
> >>I don't know how many of you have read prophetic books in the
bible
> >>such as the book of revelation. Perhaps you would like to do so
now ?
> >>The langusge is very metaphorical, the NLP fans amongst you will
> >>find it fascinating and I'm sure that it's imagery will appeal
to
> >>you. If you can find notes that explain some of the people and
> >>places, you will find it intriguing.
> >>
> >>I'll give you a couple of pointers:
> >>
> >>1) Babylon is the area know known as Iraq.
> >>
> >>2) When you get to the point in the ýtribulationý where it
describes
> >>leaders in the world drawing up an agreement to support Israel,
it
> >>might make you stop to think.
> >>
> >>Try reading it with your mind open, let me know what you think.
> >>
> >>Also, if you browse the www.neurosematics.com website you will
find
> >>several pages that describe the methods of Jesus Christ in NLP
terms.
> >>
> >>For those of you who didn't know, the NLP author Michael Hall
> >>identifies as christian and he has found that the scientific
> >>methodology of NLP is an interesting way of exploring his faith.
> >>
> >>When you look at the structure of lanuage in the gospels you'll
find
> >>some really fine examples of pacing, leading, reframing etc. etc.
> >>
> >>It is undeniable that the bible is a book that is VERY
influencial.
> >>Find out why, it could be the best thing thing you've ever done.
> >>
> >>You may now ponder the words that I use to finish this message.
> >>
> >>God bless you.
> >>
> >>Amen.
> >>
> >>
> >>Joel Buckle
> >>
> >>
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