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From: Kirsty Smith
Date: Thu May 1, 2003 12:57pm
Subject: Re: [Derren Brown] Are you anti-christ ?
Just adding my own random thoughts.....Amen means 'I agree' so no-one needs to
add it to the end of their post unless they are schitzophrenic......
richardwrote:Joel - several points here from a very
lapsed Catholic and probably one of the older members of this Group.
1. The Bible is not a book , but a collection of writings - none of which , as
far I i'm aware , were ever actually written at or around the time Jesus Christ
lived ( I'm not disputing the fact that he is a historical figure ) - the
earliest seem to have been several hundred years after the event. Even in this
day & age ,we would be hard-pressed for real accuracy if we started writing
about a figure who lived in the 16th or 17th century about whom all we knew
were verbal sources handed down from generation to generation.
2. The Bible has been transcribed & re-transcribed from older languages & very
probably has been accidentally or deliberately translated in the process.
3. Iraq occupies what has been called the 'Cradle Of Civilisation' and has been
argued by some Christian theologians as the site of The Garden Of Eden' .
4. The Bible shows that the Canaanites who later became Israelites were an
invading , dispossessing tribe who justified their violence by reference to the
Will of God - some things never change.
5. It is one thing to have Faith - but an unquestioning one in its worst guise
leads to all forms of fraud , abuse , atrocities and the suspension of logic ,
reason & basic humanity.
I don't believe members of this Group are necessarily 'anti-christ' - just
evidencing a healthy skeptisism & inquistiveness about religions & 'miracles'
in general.
Amen!
TTFN
Rich .
-----Original Message-----
From : "Joel "
To : derrenbrown@y...
Date : 01 May 2003 09:01:54
Subject : [Derren Brown] Are you anti-christ ?
I have noticed that there has been several posts recently that are
>dismissive of the belief that Jesus is as the bible describes him or
>that his miracles were genuine.
>
>I agree that you could replicate similar effects with magic.
>I know that there are many influences nowadays that suggest that it
>is cool to be anti-christ, you see it on T-shirts and in music all
>the time.
>
>I don't know how many of you have read prophetic books in the bible
>such as the book of revelation. Perhaps you would like to do so now ?
>The langusge is very metaphorical, the NLP fans amongst you will
>find it fascinating and I'm sure that it's imagery will appeal to
>you. If you can find notes that explain some of the people and
>places, you will find it intriguing.
>
>I'll give you a couple of pointers:
>
>1) Babylon is the area know known as Iraq.
>
>2) When you get to the point in the "tribulation" where it describes
>leaders in the world drawing up an agreement to support Israel, it
>might make you stop to think.
>
>Try reading it with your mind open, let me know what you think.
>
>Also, if you browse the www.neurosematics.com website you will find
>several pages that describe the methods of Jesus Christ in NLP terms.
>
>For those of you who didn't know, the NLP author Michael Hall
>identifies as christian and he has found that the scientific
>methodology of NLP is an interesting way of exploring his faith.
>
>When you look at the structure of lanuage in the gospels you'll find
>some really fine examples of pacing, leading, reframing etc. etc.
>
>It is undeniable that the bible is a book that is VERY influencial.
>Find out why, it could be the best thing thing you've ever done.
>
>You may now ponder the words that I use to finish this message.
>
>God bless you.
>
>Amen.
>
>
>Joel Buckle
>
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