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From: richard
Date: Tue Apr 29, 2003 10:36pm
Subject: Re: [Derren Brown] i *heart* columbo
Spot on Paulo - a magnifico post!
Ciao!
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From : Paulo Romani
To : derrenbrown@y...
Date : 29 April 2003 21:37:22
Subject : Re: [Derren Brown] i *heart* columbo
Although Dale has obviously caused a stir, I agree - it has indeed made the
>group more interesting.
>
>As a human being, we are naturally inquisitive, and so it's understandable
>that, in this case, we will want to speculate and figure out how derren's
>material is performed. I personally have very few friends who will see a
>trick I perform and not want to know the secret. I don't think I'd want to
>spend time with people who aren't interested.
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>How can you suggest that there should be a seperation between exposing the
>effects performed that use NLP and those that use so called "magic secrets"?
>The very nature of this point is the seed of exposure in itself.
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>Any magician worth their salt knows that the art of performing a great trick
>is not about the secret but about the effect. The touching lap dancers
>trick is a perfect example of this. Most people will watch the trick in the
>context of a "mind control" show and assume that it is not a traditional
>magic trick but some kind of psychological illusion - and it is if you think
>about it. The only possible justification for the exposure of derren's NLP
>based effects is because he teases with a little exposure on his show. The
>reason he does this is clear - it is to add value to the effects that use
>other methods.
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>In the case of a paul daniels show then the prejudices of the audience are
>completely different. The set up of Derren's show is a piece of art in
>itself. This is why the presentation of magic in this way is absolute
>genius.....
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>Just my 2 ageing lira anyway......
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>Paulo
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>on 29/4/03 7:07 PM, miss_i_adler at no_reply@y... wrote:
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>I've not wanted to come here for some time because it all got a bit
>googly-eyed, so I applaud D Kingston Esq for spicing it back up a bit.
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>Also, Dale, I *do* hope Derren includes his ebay tributes in his next
>batch of reviews on the website. I can just see it now:
>
>'Genius!' - The Guardian
>'Bristol's scariest man' - The Scotsman
>'Great trader A+++!!! Very prompt payment! Ebay
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>I don't know why you lot go overboard on Derren all the time anyway.
>Everyone knows Ian Rowland's got a nicer bottom :-)
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