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From: nxnzerx
Date: Mon Apr 28, 2003 12:59am
Subject: Re: Another Derren Brown?! (Jez Rose)
Mr Rose
I am interested, as I'm sure members of the group are, as to what
differentiates you and your routine from Derren Brown. I am
genuinely interested in another mainstream performer presenting
psychological magic - competition is healthy
I understand that you don't wish to toot your own horn on a Derren
group, but we do have quite a broad amount of off topic
conversation, including Lady Lita tooting her, and for a price,
others, horn.
Also I find your final comment:
"If I don't reply, I'm not being rude, only I don't make a point of
watching these forums. I'll let you get on now with enjoying
Derren's performance. I hope I've cleared a few things up."
A tad strange as this is the first post I have seen by you and it
pops up less than 24 hours after the first post regarding you. Maybe
you are in a "high state of syncronicity" with the group ;)
Please, step up to the podium and tell us about yourself.
--- In a previous message, jezrose1 wrote:
> Sang,
>
> I don't feel it would be right for me to share information about
me
> on what is, essentially, a place for fans of Derren. If you're
> interested in my personal style [which is, incidentally, although
> similar as it is so unique, different to Derrens] then look at the
> new website which will go online later in May....hopefully.
>
> I was just a little annoyed to read that I was "copying Derren",
and
> branded unfairly as someone out to mimic and take over Derren's
> persona. Think of it, simply, like other professional performers
> performing 'street magic' - they aren't copying or "out to get"
> David Blaine, they are giving the public what they want. It is
> slightly different in this context because of the specialist
nature
> of this particular style and there are therefore less of us doing
it.
>
> If I don't reply, I'm not being rude, only I don't make a point of
> watching these forums. I'll let you get on now with enjoying
> Derren's performance. I hope I've cleared a few things up.
>
> Another Derren Brown? No. I'm Jez Rose.
>
>
> --- In a previous message, hypersang
> wrote:
> > Hi Jez,
> >
> > I agree with you there about keeping everything cool. If you
know
> > Derren and he's happy with it all then that's fine.
> >
> > Also, I am intrigued about the TV special you are going to show
> later
> > in the year. Can you enlighten us on what stuff you will be
doing
> on
> > the show? Do you have an actual date of when it will be shown,
and
> > what channel will it be on?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Sang
> >
> > --- In a previous message, jezrose1
> wrote:
> > > I read with interest your comments.
> > >
> > > Derren is a good friend of mine and I am by no means
> impersonating
> > > him. As a professional performer working in what is generally
> > known
> > > as "mentalism", Derren's style is very popular, and is what
> > > audiences are most interested in. Having studied psychology
and
> > > worked as a counsellor, my job has been working directly with
> > > people. There was obviously a natural gap for me to work more
> > > directly with psychology and mentalism, that Derren is now
> popular
> > > for. I would encourage Sang to not be so overly protective of
> > > Derren. Contacting management et al wastes everyone's time.
> And,
> > > as JD quite rightly says, Derren is not the only one working
in
> > this
> > > type of style/field. Kenton Knepper is perhaps the most
obvious
> > > example.
> > >
> > > Anyway, I don't want to cause bad vibes; I just felt it was
> > > necessary to cool the water a bit.
> > >
> > > Have fun and do keep watching Derren.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Jez Rose [and yes, I do call myself as a Psychological
> > > Illusionist...after all, it's not magic - is it?]
> > >
> > > --- In a previous message, jamesdavidson_99
> > > wrote:
> > > > Firstly I really don't think DB has anything to worry about
> just
> > > > yet. There is room for only one television entertainer
> peddling
> > > the
> > > > whole psychological illusionist tag and frankly DB is at the
> top
> > > of
> > > > his art. No one I've seen or heard of comes close to him in
> > terms
> > > > his presence as a performer. So maybe Mr Rose can steal the
> > > mantle
> > > > but I wouldn't bank on it. Having said I've never seen him
> > > perform
> > > > but I'm setting the video for this evening so I might soon
be
> in
> > a
> > > > position to comment...
> > > >
> > > > Secondly, DB is not the only person in the world doing what
he
> > > does.
> > > > There are hundreds of people doing basically the same thing
> > > > (although, admittedly not as well) so we shouldn't think
that
> he
> > > has
> > > > a monopoly on the performance of mentalism. I don't think,
> for
> > > > instance, that the term "psychological illusionist"
originated
> > > with
> > > > DB.
> > > >
> > > > Thirdly (and unrelatedly!) the most bizarre usage of this
site
> to
> > > > date has been the promotion (wittingly and unwittingly) of
an
> > > escort
> > > > service...DB will be exceedingly entertained...
> > > >
> > > > JD
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In a previous message, hypersang
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Hello All,
> > > > >
> > > > > Here's a very interesting post for you all - and I'm sure
> it'll
> > > go
> > > > on
> > > > > for a while... so stop picking on Lita and back to
relevant
> > > Derren
> > > > > stuff :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Ok here goes... (I hope I'm not barking up the wrong tree
> > > here!!!)
> > > > >
> > > > > I have some really bad news... It appears that there is
> another
> > > > > Derren Brown on the loose - I don't know who came about
> first
> > > but
> > > > i'm
> > > > > sure all of you haven't heard of this guy... Jez Rose.
> > > > >
> > > > > It all started earlier today when a stranger (Happany)
sent
> a
> > > > message
> > > > > to me on yahoo messenger, so we started chatting about
> Derren
> > > > Brown.
> > > > > He mentioned that Jez Rose was featured on a TV Show last
> night
> > > on
> > > > > Discovery Channel called: Xtraordinary People.
> > > > >
> > > > > So far from what I have gathered and what Happany said,
this
> > Jez
> > > > guy
> > > > > seems to be copying Derren Brown in every way possible!
For
> a
> > > > start
> > > > > he tries to look like Derren Brown, his website has a
strong
> > > > > resemblance to Derren's 2 website's (the pictures and the
> > > wording),
> > > > > he even has the cheek to call himself a Psychological
> > > Illusionist!
> > > > >
> > > > > Here's a few websites - see it for yourselves:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.dimensionjez.co.uk (his own website)
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.corporatemagicians.com/magician_jez_rose.htm
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.southbucksstar.co.uk/news/features/display.var.721846.inde
> > > x
> > > > > .psychological_illusionist_jez_rose_explains_his_art.html
> (very
> > > > > interesting - you all need to read this one)
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know what to say about all of this, I've emailed
> > > Derren's
> > > > > management so hopefully we'll find out what the hell's
going
> > on!
> > > No
> > > > > idea if this guy has contact with the Mind Control team or
> if
> > > he's
> > > > a
> > > > > copycat... we'll see.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone else heard of Jez Rose before? Maybe a fellow
> magician
> > > like
> > > > > Derek Heron might have heard/seen him before... let us
know,
> > > thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Love to hear everyone's views on this...
> > > > >
> > > > > Sang
