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From: killerb_0187
Date: Sun Mar 30, 2003 1:58pm
Subject: Re: Question to Terry...

--- In a previous message ganetauk wrote:
> Hello Kb,
>
> "I want to learn how to play the piano, what's the best way to
learn
> how to do that? is it through private lessons, or learning on my
own,
> or what? I've only got a Casio keyboard (not a full piano), but the
> keyboard is pretty good."
>
> Ok, I started by teaching myself using the following book "The
> Omnibus Complete Piano Player (The Complete...) Kenneth Baker ".
>
>
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0711961646/ref=sr_aps_books_1
> _1/026-0320322-8170841


Right thank you, I'll get that book. I want to start in the summer
when I have time to dedicate myself.

Usually, every summer of mine is partially spent on learning
something new. It's been computer security for 3 years running, then
it was hypnosis and nlp. And now I want to continue that while
incorporating it with the piano...
>
> After studying that specific book, I started to use my modelling
> method to model top classical players.(glenn gould's "piano
dancing",
> chopin's mental patterns, liszt's postures and use of metaphors
etc.)
>
> Since you don't know my modelling method, here is what you can try
> kb; Once studying the said book, page by page (if you skip ahead
> you'll miss something, it progresses in such a way that little
> elements of knowledge are added - so take your time, trust me its
> quicker that way), you'll have enough basic knowledge to know if
you
> want to learn more. You might be happy at this point and not need
> anymore study. You'll be able, if you go step-by-step, to play the
> moonlight sonata etc. ie your goal.
>
> If you do wish to learn more, you might try and seek out a teacher -

> basically look for a teacher with the most letters after their
name.
> Don't mess around with a small time teacher, go for a top
> teacher...normally charge £20 per hour (hence i suggest you start
> with the book, cheaper and works!)


Yeah...

But I've only got a keyboard.. Will the teacher get offended or
something?? Do you have to have a full on piano?
>
> I do teach but cannot take anymore pupils at the moment or i'd
teach
> ya. The way I teach is via modelling, trance and nlp, so you learn
> all the major and minor scales in about 20minutes, without even
> knowing you were learning :o)(the reason I've have said this is to
> let you know its possible and quite easy to do - (clue) look for
> patterns and then generalise across areas).

Hey that sounds good you know..

I may just wait until your timetable frees up a little. ;)

>
> I won't go into details about my specific music teaching
techniques,
> but here's a tip - always search for patterns and try and code

OOOOOO, so modest :)


those
> patterns with numbers (thats a BIG clue :o) - numbers are easy to
> generalise in music. And keep the patterns as simple as possible,
> then you'll be able to cope when it gets complex/advanced.
>
> "I've only got a Casio keyboard (not a full piano), but the
> keyboard is pretty good."
>
> Thats fine, I started with a small keyboard. And since you have
this
> keyboard, use its resources! As you play, keep time by using the
> drums etc. If a piece suggests the sound of a violin, then use a
> violin sound. When you sit at a real piano, you can think about
> hearing those sounds and your music will come to life.
>
> "I want to learn it mainly for classical music... like "Moonlight
> Sonata" - That's beautiful, one of my favourites!!"
>
> The book I suggested teaches various tunes/styles. It will teach
you
> to be able to play various styles, including classical. To play any
> music you need a technique, art flows FROM technique. Technique is
> the execution of specfic patterns/models. Anyone who says technique
> is not important, tends to have very little technique. :o) I go by
> what works.
>
> Other tips - visualise things in your mind as you play. When you
> learn about "chords"...like C major, play it with you eyes closed
and
> see a specifc colour for C major and so on. Strategy - You are
> anchoring external sounds to internal images.
>
> Remember to breath! - some people when playing, and learning in
> general, forget to breath. Your brain kinda needs the air. :oP
>
> Get confident at your level of knowledge. Dont worry if it seems
> simple to others etc. You are at YOUR level. You are progressing.
> Once confident with a piece of knowledge, use it and then go onto
the
> next step. Step-by-step.
>
> ok, I'll stop there. And for those of you who are not interested in
> music/piano but read the above....you might have noticed some
methods
> you can generalise to YOUR studies, can you not?
>
> Regards TerryrreT
>
> ps. Also, check online for FREE piano lessons. When I started there
> was no www.


Thanks... much appreciated..
>
> --- In a previous message killerb_0187
> wrote:
> > Hi Terry,
> >
> > You seem to be in a very helpful mood from your recent posts, so
> I'm
> > gonna anchor that state to me (a visual one, i believe)!! :D
> >
> > Right, before I begin, this is NOT a post related to Derren, so
> > please ignore it if that's what you're looking for.
> >
> > The only reason why I'm posting this, and not e-mailing Terry
> > personally is because it might be a useful question to some of
> you...
> >
> > Right, Terry....
> >
> > I want to learn how to play the piano, what's the best way to
learn
> > how to do that? is it through private lessons, or learning on my
> own,
> > or what? I've only got a Casio keyboard (not a full piano), but
the
> > keyboard is pretty good.
> >
> > I want to learn it mainly for classical music... like "Moonlight
> > Sonata" - That's beautiful, one of my favourites!!
> >
> > And if you could make me a model of yourself that'd be great! >;)


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