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From: mrb_bailey
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 12:11pm
Subject: [Derren Brown] Re: Speed Seduction et al
There was a young man from ???
--- In a previous message luise_f wrote:
>
> I'm only jivin' wit you :-)
>
> My most honest piece of advice for the chaps is skip the hard
sex
> talk and try a bit of good old-fashioned poetry. *Much* more
erotic
> and will still hit the required spots but in a receptive way.
>
> (pick poem with care, obv. Try one of Daisy Goodwin's Love
> Anthologies for inspiration from the greats). --- In a previous message mrb_bailey wrote:
> > I've murdered axes for saysin worse you know!
> > you are feel to do as I tell you.
> >
> > the aeroplane thing is starting to get to me a bit.
> >
> > ---
> > The bets speed Seduction i've seen was a guy walking up to
a group
> of
> > girls and saying'
> > So which one of you wants to get drunk on my money and
sleep with
> me
> > tonight then?
> >
> > And it worked... and I shat.
> > this girl put her hand up and said "I will"
> >
> >
> > --- In a previous message luise_f wrote:
> > >
> > > LOL.
> > >
> > > Rule 17: ensure target female considers you completely
harmless
> and
> > > rubbish with women.
> > >
> > > You are definitely a serial axe murderer.:-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In a previous message Boyce Bailey
wrote:
> > > > Well just about every program that has had something to
do with
> the
> > > > differences between men and woman say the same sort
or things.
> > > >
> > > > Usually. Men can only do one thing at a time and can do
3d work
> and
> > > read
> > > > maps in their head.
> > > > Women can do 100 things at once have better
communication
> skills
> > > and notice
> > > > what states people are in from 1000 pictures of faces.
> > > > And are scared of spiders, Ha Ha Ha.
> > > >
> > > > Which I've always read as total crap. 60 percent of the
> population
> > > might be
> > > > like this. but the other 40 tell you to piss off when you go
> near
> > > them with
> > > > a clip board to ask questions.
> > > > I had to learn the better communication skills, I'm trying to
> see
> > > what faces
> > > > and bodies are doing. That's two things at once.
> > > > And if you go near me with a spider I'll kill you and then
the
> > > spider with a
> > > > big big shoe.
> > > >
> > > > If you heard me chat up a girl you'd be in the corner with
my
> > > friends doing
> > > > aeroplane wings with your arms and something that
looks like
> > > crashing and
> > > > burning gestures.
> > > > :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Blue Chip / Bailey,
> > > > >
> > > > >I think all the ladies here would greatly enjoy being a spy
on
> the
> > > > >wall if you two were trying to chat up women doing that
stuff.
> > > > >
> > > > >This is all smoke and waffle anyway...you two would be
a lot
> > > smoother
> > > > >than that, you pair of foxes :-)
> > > > >
> > > > >You're probably right about blokes never noticing the
finer
> > > details:
> > > > >the extension of that logic is that women would make
better
> > > > >mentalists, non?
> > > > >
> > > > >Anyway, I've just gone and bought Corinda 13 Steps, la
la!
> > > > >Let the learning commence ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >--- In a previous message Blue Chip
wrote:
> > > > > > I quite enjoy watching breathing rates, when they
> say "excuse
> > > me,
> > > > >the
> > > > > > conversation is happening up here" I just say "It's
> alright.
> > > I'm
> > > > >not
> > > > > > staring at your 7175, just monitoring your breathing
> rate" ;)
> > > LOL
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And you do have one more than valid point. Blokes
ARE all
> > > blind,
> > > > >blushing
> > > > > > is far too subtle a hint when all he is aware of is the
> torrent
> > > of
> > > > >raging
> > > > > > whoremoans pumping up and down inside, generally
making him
> > say
> > > > >really
> > > > > > stupid things like "you have lovely skin, what kind of
> cream do
> > > you
> > > > >put on
> > > > > > your face... ... only kidding... ... your skin's quite
> wrinkly
> > > > >really"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At 16:49 06/03/03 +0000, you wrote:
> > > > > > >I've a load of mp3s with the innuendo ("patterns"
yeah
> right) I
> > > > >don't think
> > > > > > >I could use them.
> > > > > > >Blatant filth. That's what they want and by golly that's
> what
> > > I do
> > > > >well.
> > > > > > >Just before I crash and burn.
> > > > > > >:)
> > > > > > >Do a search for mp3s about anchoring better than
the
> books.
> > > ergh
> > > > >some of
> > > > > > >them are so dull.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Well, woman notice body language/ blushes/ totally
obvious
> > > signs
> > > > >so much
> > > > > > >better than men, Who are in fact blind to them you'd
be
> better
> > > off
> > > > >going
> > > > > > >total red just to see if he sees anything at all.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >- I've been looking for ages and I still can't see
> > > changes.
> > > > > > >Breathing rates
> > > > > > >I can but not much else.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >From: "luise_f"
> > > > > > > >Reply-To:
> > > > > > > >To:
> > > > > > > >Subject: [Derren Brown] Re: Speed Seduction et al
> > > > > > > >Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 15:45:34 -0000
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >mrb bailey
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I probably should do that if it happens again - start
> > > talking to
> > > > >them
> > > > > > > >in speed seduction lingo. I'm obviously far *too*
kind
> to
> > > make
> > > > >them
> > > > > > > >crumple, I'd be more likely to simply excuse
myself.
> (note to
> > > > >self:
> > > > > > > >give inner bitch some exercise :-)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >The time it was most blatant was when this guy
was doing
> > > > >the 'sex'
> > > > > > > >one - you know where you bombard the bird with
tons of
> sexual
> > > > > > > >innuendo but keep saying 'only kidding'? Then
apparently
> > > she'll
> > > > >want
> > > > > > > >to go home with you. He was really incredibly foul.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >It's nice to hear you think I should keep the blush
:-)
> > > > >Ultimately I
> > > > > > > >don't think there's a great deal I can really do to
> conceal
> > > it,
> > > > >maybe
> > > > > > > >just control it a little. It's not that its disfiguring,
> (not
> > > > >that
> > > > > > > >bad!) but it generally only happens if I *like*
someone.
> You
> > > know
> > > > > > > >what I mean. And that's a big handicap in this
domain of
> > > people
> > > > > > > >reading!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >The anchoring is something I should practise
more. Time
> to
> > > dig
> > > > >the
> > > > > > > >aged NLP tomes out again.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >--- In a previous message mrb_bailey"
<>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > The blush thing sounds like it could use a bit of
> altered
> > > > >state
> > > > > > > >help.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > When don't you blush? What are you doing,
seeing,
> hearing -
> > > > >all the
> > > > > > > > > other visualisation stuff.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > When do you blush?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Anchor the not blushing (by what ever means
works for
> > > you) to
> > > > >just
> > > > > > > > > before the blush state.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So the next time you feel you are going to blush
you
> have
> > > to
> > > > >go
> > > > > > > > > through all that stuff that doesn't make you
blush.
> > > > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I think you should keep the blush. - Means
there's
> > > something
> > > > >going
> > > > > > > > > on, on the inside.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > I've found personal anchoring to be really useful.
> The
> > > curve
> > > > >on the
> > > > > > > > > top of my monitor is the shape of where my
shoulders
> > > should
> > > > >be when
> > > > > > > > > I'm relaxed. I then sit up straight to get my
> shoulders
> > > > >right. I
> > > > > > > > > caught myself doing this several times. Which is
when
> I
> > > like
> > > > >to
> > > > > > > > > reinforce it. Might be all wrong NLP wise; but it
> gets
> > > me to
> > > > >sit
> > > > > > > > > properly - So I'll take it.
> > > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > As for the speed seduction, Hearing anything
done
> badly
> > > will
> > > > >sound
> > > > > > > > > painful. Hearing it done well, will work. But on a
> > > different
> > > > >level
> > > > > > > >as
> > > > > > > > > you know what's being done and you can enjoy
the
> show.
> > > Like
> > > > >seeing
> > > > > > > >a
> > > > > > > > > magician doing tricks you know; but filling the
stage
> with
> > > > >energy.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Speed seduction has worked for me as in so
much as,
> to get
> > > > > > > > > interesting answers you have to ask interesting
> > > questions, and
> > > > > > > > > interesting questions work with everyone at any
time
> on
> > > any
> > > > >level
> > > > > > > > > about any thing.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Plus feel lucky you didn't hear the person before
> they
> > > learnt
> > > > > > > > > anything about Speed seduction. Watch some
bloke
> > > nervously or
> > > > > > > > > drunkenly bore a girl to death with work details
> would be
> > > way
> > > > >worse.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > For a laugh you should go up to them and help
or tell
> them
> > > > >what
> > > > > > > >they
> > > > > > > > > are doing. Might make for an interesting viewing
as
> their
> > > > >shield
> > > > > > > >and
> > > > > > > > > confidence collapse.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > By the way. if you think all of the above is rubbish
-
> you
> > > > >might be
> > > > > > > > > right... :)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In a previous message luise_f"
<>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Bluechip:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I'll try your concepts out on my squeeze later
> tonight,
> > > but
> > > > >it's
> > > > > > > > > > tricky due to his having the advantage of an
olive-
> > > skinned
> > > > > > > > > complexion.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Will report back on test results tomorrow. :-)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ;)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> >
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