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From: mat_2001mat
Date: Thu Mar 6, 2003 5:49pm
Subject: Re: [Derren Brown] Derren's Trick with Sue on RI:SE
Well a match stick man, and a house. What else does the picture need ?
A companion .... well it cant be a human ... because they are
matchstick people.
What else is part of a normal family, the dog :-). This is what i
think the representation is.
Dont forget Ganetuak`s chat tonight.
8-10 pm talking about NLP ect...
--- In a previous message sue5804 wrote:
>
> <<A dog is
> certainly "like a matchstick man or a house.">>
>
> It is?? Anyway, he says "NOT like a matchstick man or a house",
which
> could hypothetically make them pick another common object,like a
tree,
> (although I do, of course understand that mentioning those 2
objects
> will make the subject visualise them). But I am such a
> beginner/learner about all this I just want to be able to
understand,
> so please treat this post as a request for further information, not
> as a criticism or argument! :-)
>
>
> --- In a previous message Blue Chip wrote:
> > You might enjoy his presentation of this gag with Sarah Cox - who
> only
> > elates "i know why I drew that!" just after she had seen the
> pictures.
> >
> > If his gag with the advertisers works in the way he describes it,
> it would
> > certainly seem a valid theory for his "think of a picture" gag.
A
> > demonstration of subliminal persuasion. This could be repeated
> quite
> > reaonably in his stage show by posting the drawing somewhere in
the
> > lobby? He still has to force the recollection live on stage. A
> dog is
> > certainly "like a matchstick man or a house."
> >
> > >WEll I hope its not a picture at the back of the stage as that
> would
> > >make me a bit sad :(
> > >
> > >Does he do anything with his hands? mpeg it and post it
> > >somewhere on the web.
> > >
> > >I'd rather hope that somehere in the test is some words or
> > >phrase that sounds like dog! and with his hands he makes dog
> > >type signs...
> > >
> > >Please don't let it be a picture or a real dog off stage.
> > >
> > >
> > >--- In a previous message Blue Chip wrote:
> > > > I'm guessing that maybe he stuck the very picture up
> > >somewhere backstage
> > > > where she would see it but not notice it. NEVER rely on his
> > >explanations
> > > > of how he does things ;)
> > > >
> > > > At 01:43 06/03/03 +0000, you wrote:
> > > > >Why did Sue draw a dog on RI:SE ?
> > > > >
> > > > >I cannot fathom - I tried it on a friend and he drew a
mountain
> > > > >
> > > > >I've been thinking about this for ages, I didn't see a dog
> either
> > >!
> > > > >
> > > > >for those of you who can't remember how it went - please see
> > >below :
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >(Trick with Sue - Derren has drawn a picture of a dog.)
> > > > >
> > > > >Derren: Rather than you drawing it I'm going to get you to
> > >draw a
> > > > >picture. I have drawn a picture, which I haven't let you
see.
> To
> > >be
> > > > >absolutely clear I have not told you what to draw, I haven't
> > >shown
> > > > >you.I'm going to give you a pad and pen; now this is a bit
> > >weird I'm
> > > > >going to ask you to bear with me. I'm going to ask you to
close
> > >your
> > > > >eyes for me. I'm going to show the audience what this picture
> > >is.
> > > > >I'm not going to let you see either (to Mel) Just a simple
> > >drawing.
> > > > >It's a drawing of something, Sue but its nothing too obvious
> > >like a
> > > > >house or a stick man. I'm going to give you five seconds in
> > >those
> > > > >five seconds you must scream at sue in your mind not out
> > >loud okay
> > > > >what the picture is. And then sue you just build a picture in
> > >your
> > > > >mind of what this picture is absolutely scream it at her over
> > >again.
> > > > >And Sue I want you to draw the picture.
> > > > >
> > > > >Five seconds to go, not out loud, five... Quick as you can.
> > > > >
> > > > >(When it is over, Sue reveals a picture of a dog almost
> > >identical to
> > > > >Derren's sketch.)
> > > > >
> > > > >Mel: I'm scared!
> > > > >
> > > > >Derren: Why did you think of dog?
> > > > >
> > > > >Sue: It's all I have in my life Derren...
> > > > >
> > > > >Mel: But how did you know that she would draw it like that?
> > > > >
> > > > >Derren: If you watch this tape over and over again and listen
> > >to the
> > > > >words I'm using then you'll know.
> > > > >
> > > > > >>WELL I JUST DON'T GET IT.... HELLLPPP !!!!<<
> > > > >
> > > > >Joel
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > >
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