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From: steve shannon
Date: Fri Jan 17, 2003 8:47pm
Subject: Re: anyway- er NLP as a pseudoscience

This is from an interview with John Grinder. I don't
understand what he means!


Michael: In the first section of the book you write
about NLP as a higher order epistemology, can you
explain?

John and Carmen: Well, now, that is a key issue - and
as you well know, we worked very hard to find an
appropriate way of conveying what we mean by this
characterization.

To begin with, it is important to have a common
starting point - epistemology as we use the term in
this work refers to the systematic study of how we
know what (we think) we know and the rules of evidence
that support such knowledge or not. In brief, we
propose that various scientific disciplines operate
with distinctive domains. Their domains are
distinctive not only in the sense of the data that are
to be described and ultimately explained in these
various disciplines but also in the sense of their
relationships to their epistemological distance from
the world about us. For example, in physics, and more
particularly in those aspects of research in physics
where instrumentation and measurement play a crucial
role, the patterning is literally about the patterning
of the physical universe relatively free (how free
depends on the answers not yet available to questions
about the epistemology of instrumentation) from human
perceptual categories imposed by the fundamental
neurological and linguistic categories through which
we perceive the world about us darkly.

Psychology, on the other hand, has nothing (with the
notable exception of endeavors such as psychophysics)
to do with such matters as the patterning explored by
physics but has a focus on the patterning available
subsequent to human neurological and linguistic (as
well as other coding) filtering.

In particular, NLP application in no way touches on
the world of patterning explored by physics but has as
its focus the world created by the transforms of the
human nervous system and language. The domain of NLP
application is representations, pure and simple, and
is incapable of making contributions to the
exploration and mapping of the world about us. This
has both limiting and liberating consequences as
described in our book.


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