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From: ganetauk
Date: Sat Jan 11, 2003 5:35pm
Subject: [Derren Brown] Re: Boring...
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This post is for those interested. Please note it refers to NLP,
anchoring etc...although i added shoe laces at the top of the
post...its just pacing (pun for all those shoe people lol)
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I was going to talk about shoe laces and whether he crosses or
straight ties em ...but....
Has anyone read the NLP book (NLP!!! naughty little people)
called... "going meta" by M. Hall?
Its (dare i say..i dare lol) ...on logical levels and meta levels
etc ...one interesting point (interesting to whom, well i have lost
all touch with such questions lol) ...is the idea of anchoring on
different levels.
Setting an anchor at a primary level ..VAK...one can use visual,
kinesthetic or auditory.
But when trying to anchor "meta states"....feelings ABOUT feelings
etc. one must anchor on a higher logical level. (via words
etc...although kinesthetic anchor might work)
It also talks about changing the term "sub-modalities" to "meta-
modalities" ...because they "drive" rep. systems (and are at a higher
logical level) rather than being "sub" to rep. systems
If you like NLP...you may find "going meta" interesting. If you don't
like NLP...you may find "going mad" interesting. Both of which are
interesting, but thats a double bind.
and one more thing...
--- In a previous message Blue Chip wrote:
>
> >I would have thought that people with so much skill at reading
people
> >would have realised that I was joking about the clothes point...
>
> God forbid that someone else should carry on your joke - that would
suggest
> that you have provoked a state, which of course is impossible - and
not at
> all used by DB - LOL
>
> >time
> >to recalibrate perhaps?
>
> You don't like what WE discuss.
> You don't like the points YOU bring up.
> So what ARE you interested in then?
> ...or perhaps we should just exercise our psychic (dare I say Cold
Reading)
> skills to be able to please you? <NOD> when we get it right...
The guy in
> the editing room will deal with the rest of it.
> Perhaps you just want to complain? There are many people like that
> also. (was that a nod?)
>
> >My one complaint about DB (and it IS just the one) is that he's
given
> >some credibility to NLP Bores who think that his effects have
> >something to do with what they've "learnt".
>
> I would complain that DB has offered NO credibility to those who
are quick
> to dismiss those who don't understand.
>
> ...Who, out of interest, are the ones who don't post anything at
> all! Except the occasion post to complain about ONE or TWO aspects
of him.
>
> The reason this board contains the postings it does is because the
poeple
> willing to put in the effort to keep the board active are
interested in
> those things.
>
> Waana change it? Then do! But if you just start off by
complaining, what
> kind of replies do you expect? I mean, what kind of replies DO you
expect??
>
> >And besides, he didn't wear nice shows in his show in Bristol last
> >year...
> >
> >JD
> >
> >
> >--- In a previous message ganetauk wrote:
> > > I noticed he has nice shoes
> > >
> > > is that more to your type of posting? How interesting!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In a previous message jamesdavidson_99 wrote:
> > > > How unbelievably tedious this group is becoming!
> > > >
> > > > It's become an NLP lovefest with the odd vastly ill-
> > > informed "expose"
> > > > as to DB's methods thrown in for good measure.
> > > >
> > > > Where have all the real fans gone?!?
> > > >
> > > > I'd even rather read about where he gets his clothes from than
> >this
> > > > verbiage!
> > > >
> > > > Now I'm even boring myself...
> > > >
> > > > JD
> >
> >
> >
> >[e-mail address removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >> >http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/info/terms.html
