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From: Blue Chip
Date: Tue Jan 7, 2003 11:37pm
Subject: Re: Reply to The One about that "mistake"! and Ganetauk
Impressed :)
Along with "that it" and "excellent", I would offer "as you
<blah>" Bandler uses this as a replacement for "you will now <blah>"
The one that is eluding me (unless my _guess_ is right) is the "put it in
the hand that feels right and leave the one that's left empty. That's my
left of course, but don't let me influence you."
I'm guessing that this is a confusion method to cover what he is actually
doing. Maybe there is a subtle tonality that I am missing. Any ideas?
At 23:02 07/01/03 +0000, you wrote:
>"I will give you THE biggest clue" is a very effective
>
>Bandlerism." :o), i guess, its easy to pick up ideas
>and phrases on
>the unconscious level ha? :o)Does that clear things
>up?
>
>Yes, most interesting!
>
>I looked at the video of the new episodes last night
>for the second time and spotted some more great
>techniques!
>
>This may be a bit obvious to you, but it wasn't to me
>the first time (probably because I was watching it
>unconsciously)
>
>Do you know when he's at the football grounds and
>later says that the setting is very important?
>
>Well it is at the football ground that a Crowd
>Mentality is most in effect. This means people are
>being generally less aware of their individual
>decision making processes and leaving all that hard
>work to external influence (mainly authority or crowd)
>
>So in steps out Derren, callibrates, sets and fires a
>few "i'm a nice guy, please don't smash my face up
>with that beer bottle u have there" anchors, goes into
>matching and leading.. then... hey presto... they
>FOllow the LEADER!!
>
>Look at it closely to see what I mean!
>
>Paper, Rock, Scissors my arse!
>
>And another Derren variant I worked out on my college
>mates today was this:
>
>For the "guessing which hand the coin is in" trick...
>initial rapport patter (nothing too involved) and then
>stay at matching, let THEM lead.
>Throw in some solid ambiguities pasted over with thick
>LAYERS of milton lingo patterns. My own personal
>creation for making the arm with the coin sink down
>was:
>
>To COIN a term of the famous philosopher, KANT, "let
>all WEIGHT be burdened with the GRAVITY of
>conscience!" I know you're thinking... I'm not THE
>FULL PENNY.... but it's like me saying "SEE NOW" to a
>blind man! (laughter) NOW, just HOLD ON a moment...
>til I... okay... just WEIGHT, okay whenever you FEEL
>ready.... WAIT... OKAY, GO!
>
>and the other one to force the coin into the right
>hand was:
>
>
>I see you're interested in how I KNOW what I KNOW and
>you're RIGHT to question the extermely HANDY methods
>i'm using but the fact is that nobody KNOWS the RIGHT
>and true facts of the RIGHT-ings which I've read
>about.. and when you break it down to the essential
>axiom of choice, WHAT'S LEFT IS WORTHLESS.... okay...
>whenever you feel... RIGHT... Just go with whatever
>YOU'RE FEELING RIGHT NOW.
>
>
>Don't forget to put in lots of "that's it"s and
>"Excellent"s to establish lots of nice associations..
>
>
>Messing about with this stuff is hours of fun
>GUARANTEED!
>
>enjoy it already!
>
>
>Steve.