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From: marcthomashogan
Date: Fri Dec 20, 2002 4:08pm
Subject: Re: Covert Waking Trance - Martial Artist
Hi Dave
> hi mark,
>
> i've recently started training as a hypnotherapist and was
interested in the covert waking trance you mentioned. are you able
to detail it at all?
Dave
I originally learnt hypnosis 10 years ago, but I realised that the
most important aspect is state control.
My state - will lead their sate
ie if you tell a joke, but don't think its funny no one will laugh
Your state influences everything you say and do
I use state contol, and language to lead people into trance, now its
not deep sombalistic trance, but it is more effective as you can do
it in conversation, and use anchoring, embeeded commands, to lead
them into state, when ever i choose,
I hope that helps
> kind regards, dave.
>
> --- In a previous message marcthomashogan wrote:
> > Hi guys
> >
> > After my Seminar post, Covert Waking Trance has been mentioned
> > quite a lot in recent posts, so this is how it works
> >
> > Now people are very curious about this phenomenon, and really
want
> > to understand how it works.
> >
> > We've all see Derren perform waking trance phenomenon, and the
> > incredible effects you can perform
> >
> > When I have perform similar, I have used 3 Methods
> >
> > Method 1 - Traditional Method
> > I hypnotise some people, and get them to carry out some
commands,
> > then as they are in a highly suggestive state, I will wake them
and
> > they will respond to my voice, and anything I say
> >
> > (Actually part of my routine - the person is awake and fully
aware
> > through all of this)
> >
> > So if I say "you can't walk"
> >
> > They won't be able to walk
> >
> > ME) "But you can if you touch your nose"
> >
> > They touch there nose and can walk
> >
> > ME) "But now your finger stuck to your nose
> >
> > And there finger is stuck to their nose
> >
> >
> > And so on.....
> >
> >
> > Now that involves me putting them into a closed eye trance, but
> this
> > can be quickened by using
> >
> > Method 2 - Rapid Induction Technique
> >
> > Most people know I can hypnotise people, and that I can spot
lies
> > etc, so they percieve that I have a unique skill /power over
them.
> >
> >
> > This makes them highly highly suggestive, therefore using arm
> > catalepsy and hand locking exercises, and then follow on with
the
> > routine above
> >
> > However this also requires them knowing I am a hypnotist, and me
> > having to exert some control, which is fine in a performance
> > setting, but
> >
> > in the real world is practically useless!!!
> >
> > So my Favourite Method Is
> >
> > Method 3 Covert Waking Trance
> >
> > Using vague language and embedded commands, with strong use of
> > anchoring, I talk with a person, and bring them into a trance
like
> > relaxed state conversationally.
> >
> > No eyes are closed,
> >
> > No one mentions hypnosis,
> >
> > however,
> >
> > they are extremely relaxed, comfortable and open to my
suggestions
> >
> > Now in my experience and in conversations with many other NLP
> > trainers, that this depth of relaxed Trance is very natural and
can
> > be induced and deepened very easily.
> >
> > I use this technique every day, with everyone I meet, I can do
it
> in
> > under a minute, it's incredibly effective
> >
> > In fact My Psychology lecture this week was on Is Hypnosis Real,
> >
> > And i was challenged to Hypnnotise some one
> >
> > By using this method (covert waking trance) I completly bypassed
> > there criical brain, and they couldn't reject my suggestions as
> > they where unable to hear the sugestions, as they were embedded.
> >
> > Of couse they were also unaware ,what was happening as I didn't
ask
> > them to close their eyes - which they thought I'd do.
> >
> > One guy went in about 30 seconds the other took slightly longer-
> > about a minute.
> >
> > The response was incredible , people who didn't believe, were at
> the
> > end of night, believers (subsequently I've now got some new
private
> > clients and they were fascinated by the speed it could be
> > induced.
> >
> > This will be one of the things people will learn when they come
to
> > my seminar on Feb 1st
> >
> > Obviously Derren could use any of these method, with the martial
> > artists, however this method would allow him to legitimately
claim
> > that no one was hypnotised!!!!
> >
> > As I say my favourite method is Covert Waking Trance, its very
> > powerful, however its much more than the words you use, it's
also
> > about your intent.
> >
> >
> > You can contact me at
> >
> > markthogan @hotmail.com ( no spaces)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Kind Regards
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
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