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From: there2dream
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 2:56pm
Subject: Re: resistant strand
hey! thanks for all the info - fascinating!
--- In a previous message wayneryder wrote:
> When he successfully lifts her, she's closer to his body. Note that
> she's small, which makes you think she'll be a cinch to lift, but in
> fact works against you.
>
> The lifting feat is down to the girl as much as Derren's suggestion.
> She holds the forearms of the lifter so he's lifting at an awkward
> angle. I also think she pushes/leans forward, triangulating the
> upward force.
> From an article called "The Feats of the Magnetic Girl Explained":
>
> In the experiment with the child, a slightly different procedure
> is necessary, for a powerful man would be able to lift the child
> where he would utterly fail with a person twice its weight. In the
> case of the child, the hold of the lifter will be much lower than in
> experiments with an adult, and he must lean over further for the
> purpose. He is, of course, kept at the proper distance from the
> child, even though leaning over, by the performer's hand on his
> shoulder. In this position his lifting effort will not be in a
> vertical direction as he imagines, but in the arc of a circle whose
> tangent will be but a few degrees from the horizontal. He is,
> therefore, unconsciously working at great mechanical disadvantage in
> endeavoring to force the child's weight nearly horizontal, and all
> that the performer has to do is to counteract this horizontal push,
> or rather the resultant of the vertical and horizontal efforts of the
> lifter, by the gentle pressure of the other hand which, as before
> described, rests between the shoulder blades of the child upon whom
> the lifting experiment is being tried.
>
> Well, it's in a similar vein to what Derren was up to.
> I studied Aikido, and duplicated my instructor's demonstration at the
> power of Chi without having any. It was the one where he puts a hand
> on your shoulder and says to press down on his elbow joint with both
> your hands. Easy enough, his arm bent down at the elbow as you'd
> expect.
> Then, he switched on the Chi, and I couldn't bend it.
> What he (and I afterwards) was doing was pushing forwards to
> counteract the downward force. Of course, he was using Chi as well... --- In a previous message there2dream wrote:
> > hi - I was wondering does Derren ever meet any people he cannot
> > influence and or trick? I was watching re-runs of his show the
> other
> > night (was it E4?! I can't remember) and the part in which he tries
> > to prevent these boxing dudes from lifting the magicians assistant
> > chick I recalled seeing when it was aired the first time around (2-
> 3
> > years ago?) Anyway, one of these guys (the talles and biggest if I
> > recall correctly) seemed unable to comply with Derren's suggestions
> > of not being able to lift the girl. Derren kinda looked at him,
> broke
> > into giggles and that seemed to be that. So - does Derren ever
> > explain what happens there, and why some people seem to be
> resistant
> > to his suggestions?
> > thanks
