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From: Philip Collins
Date: Sun Nov 3, 2002 3:34am
Subject: Re: [Derren Brown] Re: new material
Thanks for taking the time to fill me in on the new stuff, dont be fooled by
card tricks though, his trick where someone names a card and he instantly
produces it from the pack is covered in his book pure effect. There are at
least 4 methods that I know of for appearing to memorize decks of card
without the use of any mnemonic techniques, although with the necessary
practice the mnemonics methods is the best by far cause it's real it is also
the slowest however. I would probably believe he was using the real method
if I hadn't seen him do his book memorisation routine. re banned from
casino's, Derren stated in MC1 i think that he is banned from all casino's
in his home town bristol - there aren't any casinos in bristol.
Working out how many cards have been picked out from a deck even when the
spectator doesnt know is also a dead simple card trick covered in a variety
of books including his own 'pure effect'
Which also contain a trick whereby the spectator shuffles the deck and
derren looking away names the cards in order, half way through the deck is
shuffled by the spectator again and again he continues revealing each card
before it is turned over. Having designed this effect surely appearing to
memorise a deck is the same trick with a different presentation.
the jail cell sounds cool i cant wait too see it, and the oxford university
also sounds interesting.
Thanks again for the write up
Phil
>From: cowenpa
>Reply-To:
>To:
>Subject: [Derren Brown] Re: new material
>Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 01:55:37 -0000
>
>Well much of it was the same but we learn also that Derren has a
>master memory. He uses an old roman trick called loci whereby for
>remembering cards he has a card room with 52 objects. To remember 4
>shuffled packs of cards he has 3 stickers on each object - if it
>comes up then he removes a sticker in his mind. Of course he is
>banned from casinos - this sort of stuff has been covered before by
>the great Dominic O'Brien - but Derren has all the skills I would
>like to have - speed reading, great memory and great at magic and
>mentalism.
>
>Also on a gambling theme he can work out how many cards have been
>picked up from a pack and can keep track of shuffled packs using
>this technique. He shuffled the pack and then asked her to think of
>a card and he found it in the pack by going straight to it - whether
>this is one of his card tricks or not - I am not sure.
>
>He said that should vote on 22 on roulette - he lost all his money
>though as number rolled was next to 22 (would have won around 90k -
>I'm sure he has enough money already).
>
>Also new was a bit he did at Oxford University where he did some
>simple feats where he got them to write a letter on a piece of card -
> saying stuff like hmmmm for m and sssss for s - fairly obvious.
>
>The pickpocketing thing was funny as people didn't notice as he
>repeatedly nicked things without them noticed - including removing
>their ties, watches, wallets, mobile phones... - he would return
>them and while asking whether they have everything will nick
>something that he has previously returned.
>
>Also utilised an old jail for a couple of stunts - one was where he
>was in one cell and guy was in the other - he got him to cross his
>arms - by asking him about his parents getting cross and got him to
>touch his ear (saying something like touching to hear - can't
>remember exactly). Also got him to draw on blackboard what he was
>drawing and to touch a point on the wall where he had drawn on the
>other side.
>
>He got a guy who could defeat a lie detector (a car salesman
>surprise surprise) and could tell where he is lying and also
>influence the lie detector on persons behalf.
>
>That is all I can remember at the mo - but sure other people can
>comment on the other bits.
>
>I did find I could see more auditory cues than I did first time
>watching and after watching the site - particularly the shopping
>centre where he got people to lift their arms - lots of things
>thrown in there. Also with the greyhounds notice how he says WINdow
>
>Cheers
>
>Paul
>
>--- In a previous message Philip Collins wrote:
> >
> > I wonder who'll be the first to provide a decent write up of
>Derrens new
> > material, as is showing as I type on E4. Unfortunately I have to
>wait until
> > february to see it :(
> > I hope someone takes the time tonight to detail anything newly
>astonishing
> > and perplexing that he does, otherwise how do we know what else we
>dont
> > understand?
> >
> > Phil
> >
> >
> >
> >
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