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From: Philip Collins
Date: Mon Oct 21, 2002 6:40am
Subject: Yet more handhake interruption stuff
Tim,
Its a valid question and from my own limited experience I would say 'yes' it
is enough. However there needs to be an appreciation that there really is no
definition of 'hypnosis'
Indeed there is a large group of therapists practising hypnosis who believe
it doesnt even exist.
The handshake, and any interupt of normal subconcious behaviour which is
carried out without thought due to learning it in earlier life, will create
a certain confusion which is inducive of hypnosis.
I dont know if everyone thinks the same way but I like to think of hypnosis
as simply the action of the imagination working on the body.
Everyone knows how to react to any given situation, if you are in a
situation you have not previously experienced you still have cues from which
you can decide the course of action. For example if you are medically
trained you know how to respond to someone having a heart attack, if not you
will recieve cues from other people around you "get some help" or from your
memory of watching 'Casualty' if not you have a panic instinct that tells
you what to do, Panic.
In a moment where you dont know what is happening, i.e "what is going on
with my hand?!". You dont know how to react, there are no cues from anyone
else because a handshake is a two person affair, there is no reason to panic
because what is happening although you dont know what it is, is not
threatening in any way. therefore you're mind turns inwards to find what
response is appropriate and finds that it has no predetermined response to
use, it is in this moment that they are most suggestible because any
suggestion on how to respond to this situation will be accepted simply
because it is the only one offered from both internal and external sources.
So are they hypnotised? well having no real definition of hypnosis to go by
other than the commonly used one 'It is a state of mind which is extremely
focused and suggestible' according to that they are. Is it enough to cause
them to experience a suggested hallucination or regression, I doubt it I
think that would require some deepening and further concentration on the
part of the subject.
My comments here are deduced from my own reading and interest. I suggest
that you read up, try things out and let us know what you find. Everyone is
different and responds to different things in different ways.
I would appreciate some evaluation of my writing from any experienced
hypnotists that might be listening.
How would the effect have been different had he not 'hypnotised' her?
Dont ever confuse method with presentation.
If, when I get home, my flatmate did not record MC from last night I'm going
to 'interupt' him out of my front room window.
Phil
>From: "vlaca_malacca"
>Reply-To:
>To:
>Subject: [Derren Brown] Yet more handhake interruption stuff
>Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:53:38 -0000
>
>Hi all,
>
>I'm new to this group, but have been interested in Derren's abilities
>since I first saw him a few years ago (on TV, I've not had the
>pleasure of seeing him perform in 3D!).
>
>I'm intrigued by the idea of pattern-breaking & NLP techniques used
>to make the "victim" more "malleable" [sorry for the unfortunate
>terms, but they're the best desciptions I can come up with right
>now].
>
>In MC 2, Derren does his photo-description trick on a young lady
>who's just sat through an opera. I noticed that Derren used the
>handshake interruption quite dramatically at one point, and the girl
>was instantly hypnotised/semi-hypnotised. My question is, was the
>girl only hypnotised at the very point when Derren interrupted her
>handshake pattern, or was this simply the most obvious of a series
>subtle hypno-techniques?
>
>I suppose what I'm really asking is whether or not you can use the
>HSI on its own to hypnotise someone.
>
>Cheers!
>
>Tim
>
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