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From: marcthomashogan
Date: Mon Oct 14, 2002 11:07am
Subject: Re: Advice on Books & Private E-mail
Hi killer B
Mentalism effects invariably are Slieght of Hand, if you want to
learn slieght of hand feel free.
There are thousands of magiciacians, who know slieght of Hand and
there is only one Derren Brown
Knowing slieght of Hand will not make you derren brown (paul Daniels
had fantastic slieght of Hand skills!)
What makes Derren different is his persuasion and misdirection
skills, you can use theses skills in all aspects of life,rather than
just magic, and I believe they are much more poweful, and you like
me would agree that is what makes DB a truly amazing performer!
Just My Opinion
I have alot of mentalism materials. I also spent many years
studying hypnosis and NLP.
I find the hypnosis and NLP much more powerful, and because I can
hypnotise peeople, it makes my mentalism much more
poweful/believable, but more importantly I find Hypnosis and NLP
much more useful to covertly persuade and influence people in my
daily life!
Kind Regards
marc
--- In a previous message killerb_0187 wrote:
> --- In a previous message marcthomashogan
> wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > I recived a private E-mail from Victor Berghaus
> > today discussing my comments on Magic Books and Derren Browns
> tricks.
> >
> > As a working Mentalist I am a big fan of Derrens work and I have
> met
> > the great man!
> >
> > What makes Derren so good is HIS PRESENTATION, of traditional
> > mentalism!
> >
> > As I have said buying Mentalism books will only dissapoint. I
Seen
> > Derrens show at the Tobacco Factory and the effects were
> > traditional Mentalism methods, made incredible using Subtle
> langauge
> > skills to confuse, gain rapport and influence the audiance!
>
> You sorta contrdict yourself here. You say that mentalism books
are
> like useless if you want to learn derren's techniques, but then
you
> say that his effects are 'traditional mentalism'.
>
> Hmm...
> >
> > I Teach Persuasion Skills, and believe me they are VERY VERY
> > Powerful,
> >
> > Do u remember what it was like when u seen your presents under
the
> > christmas tree........
> >
> > The smell of the pine needles, the chrismas lights twinkeling
over
> > shiny rapping Paper
> >
> > The sense of excitement and wonder, as you opened that first
> > present...... to touch the hidden delights inside your mind
Derren
> > is like a christmas present, you want to know, but as you read
this
> > you realise that not knowing, just seeing the wrapping is where
> that
> > incredible sense of wonder is like butterflies in your tummy....
> >
> > Study Persuasion Skills, and suddenly find yourself realising
that
> > true power is not knowing how a trick is done, but capturing
> > leading and enticing the imaginations, gaining rapport and
> > influencing those around you, with me this is true magic........
> >
> > Marc
> > --- In a previous message alex cahill wrote:
> > >
> > > hi mark. spot on. most books with magic or mentalist material
> > however good usually contain one maybe two good tricks but
> > personally if u are going to your local magic shop and buying
the
> > latest ten pound trick week after week u are wasting money. look
at
> > bill malone. his tricks are not super, they are good but him
> > performs them so well hence his huge bank balance. do u think he
> > buys all the latest books and tricks?
> > >
> > >
> > > all the best
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > Get a bigger mailbox -- choose a size that fits your needs.
> > >
> > >
> > >