Derren Brown: Archive
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From: beyondthemagic
Date: Sun Jun 16, 2002 1:45pm
Subject: Re: more embedded commands
Gordon, I think little Mo had it coming, anyway, Trevor never hit Mo-
he gave her some feedback-I think they could Iron this out between
them.
Re;
Give me your attention completely and be
> generous with your concentration. So you don't miss this'
If that does not promote an altered state of conciousness then I'm an
S club 7 fan.It would be interesting to do some simple expermentation
with embedded commands and share our results with each other-if
anyone would be interested in doing so then email me, I have used
embedded commands to support the £20 switch we covered some time ago
and it works very very well, you then have a non verbal suggestion
supported by a verbal suggestion and change of £20 from a tenner in
the process. Gordon, what do think Trevors positive intention was :-)
Lets get a few good threads going here and let the results do the
talking, Ithullian-I hope you will join in, it would be great if you
will, regards and respect, Robert.
--- In a previous message gordo_ala_moore wrote:
> Could Derren be relying more heavily triggering a trance state in
his
> sentences using 'anchors' that are attached to his voice tones or
the
> speed of his spaff? Remember the whiley show
>
> http://www-student.lboro.ac.uk/~cosac/sounds/derren_whiley_part2.mp3
> (3 mins 22 to 25 seconds, i recon that may have been an anchor to
> some pre show work.)
>
> There is a lot more to Derren than meets the eye.
>
> Final routine:-
> ---------------------------------------------------
> Borrow a note.
> "'Just one tip...' pause, '..Give me your attention completely and
be
> generous with your concentration. So you don't miss this'"
> Pure Effect (pg.120)
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> Remeber... "DONT think of the England game."
> Would intonation work with the above?
>
> Cheers, Gordon
>
> P.S.
>
> 'tis true, there is no faliure only feedback, except on this
message
> board where feeback, if you get any at all, is about 10 days later.
>
> Gordon says Trevor hit Little Mo.
>
>
> --- In a previous message beyondthemagic wrote:
> > Of course-if you didn't mark them out either verbally or non
> verbally
> > you would have no unconscious communication, it's the marking out
> > thats important not the intonation-people wont do things you ask
> just
> > because you use a command tonality-go down the pub and do it and
> see
> > how you get on and then let me know, dont believe everything you
> read
> > in an NLP book, do your own research and discover for yourself
the
> > benefits and more importantly the limitations of the model.May I
> > remind you that in the land of NLP there is no failure-only
> feedback,
> > thats how all the good cults work.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In a previous message ithullian wrote:
> > > May i remind you that embedded command have an awful lot to do
> with
> > > voice intenation and marking out. After all without these they
> > would
> > > have no impact! I do believe that what i descirbed where
embedded
> > > commands...and have many website and books to back me up....do
a
> > > google search for embedded commands if u wish, and u will see i
> did
> > > descibe them quite accuratly. However i am aware they can be
used
> > in
> > > other ways as u outlined in your post.
